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The Judicial Watch Report Interview with Gennifer Flowers Larry Klayman: While TV viewers can see James Carville on CNN¹s Crossfire, and George Stephanopoulos on ABC’s This Week, Judicial Watch will be seeing them in a California courtroom, in fact we already have. Judicial Watch is representing Gennifer Flowers in a defamation lawsuit against Carville and Stephanopoulos for statements they made on television, statements made by Stephanopoulos in his book All Too Human: A Political Education, and Carville’s publications as well. They both repeatedly called Ms. Flowers a liar and falsely accused her of fabricating evidence about her relationship with President Bill Clinton. Joining us by phone to discuss the case is Gennifer Flowers. Tom Fitton: Well, you must have seen the news that George Stephanopoulos is going to be hosting This Week on ABC News. I’m sure it kind of burns you up a little bit. Gennifer Flowers: I’m just amazed that as much as the American public knows about these scoundrels at this point, that they literally will be rewarded for their lies and deceit to the American public all these years, and of course they’ve caused me and others destruction. And then to see either one of them sitting in those positions, behind those chairs, at those major networks. I’m just appalled, I’m literally amazed, to tell you the truth. Fitton: And of course the lawsuit includes Senator Hillary Clinton as well, since she was the ringleader along with Stephanopoulos and Carville. You see Bill Clinton¹s trying to get himself a television show too. Do you think Richard Nixon and his hangers on would have been given the media success that this media is giving Clinton¹s people? Flowers: No, I sure don¹t, but of course I believe we live in a different time now, and as beneficial as our media can be to us as a nation, I think that sometimes they are driven by a motivation of money, rather than ethics, and I think that a typical example of that would be to put Bill Clinton on a television show. Now that networks know that he would drive, at least for a period of time, huge ratings because the United States and Europe is still curious about Bill Clinton because of all the media and scandal and that sort of thing, so I think that’s what it’s all about. I don¹t think it’s because they think he would make an outstanding talk show host. Fitton: Well, you know Gennifer, some people think your scandal is old news, but the damage to you was real and is ongoing. Describe generally what happened to you and how you and your loved ones suffered. Flowers: Well, we don¹t have enough time today. It would probably take a month for me to really describe all the events that occurred in the last 12 years that have caused myself and my family to suffer. I laugh because I have heard that more than once from people, why don’t you just move on. Well, unfortunately that¹s easier said than done, when you¹ve had individuals that have purposely gone to great lengths to destroy your life, that have a huge power structure and are very effective at doing that. First of all, my life was over as I had known it. It was over completely. I was not able to continue to function personally and professionally as I had been able to in the past, to make a living in the singing profession and the entertainment business. I have been able to do a few things, but I have been shut out and shut down and shut off for the last several years, and if not for the help of my loved ones and husband, I don’t know what would have become of me. Klayman: And you are to be commended Gennifer, because unlike the current Administration, you believe in getting justice. You’re not doing it for the dollars and cents, although you should be compensated for what happened to you. You¹re doing it for history, for the American people, to hold the Clintons accountable, and they owe you a great debt of gratitude. Flowers: Well, of course we would all like to be financially secure, to be able to pay our debts, and just to get by from month to month would be a nice thing, and it would be a wonderful thing to feel financially secure. But it certainly became about a lot more than that to me. It’s about right and wrong. And it’s about what our country should stand for. Fitton: Gennifer, we’re in court now, we’re at the appeals stage. The good news here about Mr. Carville and Mr. Stephanopoulos’ new found media success, is that if we win on appeal, and I expect we will, they have larger budgets now with better salaries from which to pay Gennifer when the judgment’s made against them. Klayman: Well, I hope we win on appeal. We should win on appeal, but you can never predict with judges and courts. We were well received at the Ninth Circuit when we were there. It was televised on C-Span. The world saw it, and the law is on our side, so hopefully we’ll win. If not, we’ll go to the Supreme Court, because we’re not going to give up. Flowers: Well, and let me say this before we go. I want to tell everyone out there that you guys go from daylight until dark, and you’re out there defending this country and people like me who had no hope whatsoever of having the kind of support that I have now in Judicial Watch. You¹ve been a God send, a blessing. You guys are professional, you¹re kind, you¹re ethical, and you’re the organization that we need out there defending this country against the Clintons and others. And it’s not just the Clinton Administration. There are many other issues that you guys take on that are certainly worthy. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart, my husband thanks you, and my mother thanks you, and we hold you near and dear, and we appreciate you so very much.
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