Judicial Watch President Thomas Fitton:
Welcome back to the Judicial Watch Report. The book is, Dereliction
of Duty: The Eyewitness Account of How Bill Clinton Compromised America,s
Security. It is written by retired Lieutenant Colonel Robert "Buzz"
Patterson. Colonel Patterson, thank you for joining us on the Judicial
Watch Report. Your book is competing with Hillary’s now. Do
you think it will measure up?
Lieutenant Colonel Robert “Buzz” Patterson:
Well, I think it will. I believe that my book may be a
little more credible than hers, based on what I’ve heard so
far. I think it really will provide a counter-balance actually,
and an insight that she would not want you to know about, from the
internal workings of the White House.
Fitton: Describe the level of your contact with
President Clinton and then the First Lady.
Patterson: With the President, I was by his side
daily, around the clock carrying the nuclear football, nuclear satchel.
The First Lady, a little less often, depending on her schedule.
I saw her a couple of days a week.
Fitton: So, you were with the President daily.
What do you see as being Clinton’s biggest problems?
Patterson: Very little moral fiber and integrity
behind the veneer of the man. I always thought he was a wonderful
politician, but there wasn’t much beyond that. I think that
he was really driven more by ego and by personal popularity. I expected
so much more from the President, the Commander in Chief, and I found
so much wanting when it came to that kind of inherent integrity
issues.
Fitton: When it comes to Bill Clinton, his self-centeredness
is extreme. I guess everyone can be criticized for that at one time
or another, even the best of us, but with him, I think it had real
world impacts and a dangerous impact in terms of his ability to
lead the military. Isn’t that correct?
Patterson: That’s absolutely correct. That’s
one of the things that bothered me so much was the fact he was putting
his own personal leisure time ahead of what I would call a very
critical mass of security incidences. For example, Osama bin Laden,
the "War on Terrorism" and also with Iraq. I think he
always prioritized things based on what was most important to him
personally.
Fitton: Describe your golf game story because
I think that is something that’s relevant now in the sense
it involves going after Iraq.
Patterson: Well, I had been on the job about three
months and if you recall back in 1996, the Kurds were to find Saddam
Hussein at our request. Saddam had launched a very aggressive military
strike in the north to suppress the Kurdish uprising. The U.S. sent
bombers and fighters to the region to support the Kurdish resistance.
We were going to stop the aggression. On that day, however, Clinton
had a professional golf tournament and I was receiving phone calls
from Sandy Berger throughout the day trying to get through to the
President to go ahead and launch the attack. But the President simply
couldn’t be bothered. He wanted to watch golf, he wanted to
talk to Michael Jordan and CBS Sports and ESPN. And it was not so
much the fact that he wouldn’t give the nod to the attack,
but that he wouldn’t make a decision at all. He just refused
to approach the issue and Berger was very frustrated.
Fitton: You know, I read that portion of your
book and it seemed to me he didn’t want to deal with it, so
he avoided the decision by just making it moot.
Patterson: I agree with that and, again, what
really bothered me so much is that he wouldn¹t even take the
phone call from Berger.
Fitton: I’m sure being a good military guy,
you’re able to respect the Commander in Chief simply by virtue
of the fact he is Commander in Chief, but it must have been a strain
on the military, at least those dealing with him on a day-to-day
basis, given his contempt for their concerns.
Patterson: Yeah, it was very difficult, and it
was a day-to-day internal struggle for me personally and also for
my fellow military aides that were there.
Fitton: Linda Tripp testified to us that Hillary
ruled the school at the White House. Is this true, in your estimation?
Patterson: Absolutely. No doubt in my mind. Absolutely
she did.
Fitton: In what way?
Patterson: It was almost like she had the strings
to the puppet and the puppet was the President. She was calling
all the shots behind the scenes, especially when he got in trouble
toward the end there with Monica and the Paula Jones testimony.
She ran all of the meetings up in the residence and for her to claim
that she had no insight into Monica until late summer of ‘98
is simply not true. She was running the crisis management meetings
and the spin control in the White House from the very get-go.
Fitton: You know, one of the slanders that a conservative-oriented
president has had to suffer is that they can’t keep track
of things, that they’re likely to press the wrong button and
blow us all up. How about Bill Clinton? He screwed up big time when
it came to managing our nation’s nuclear codes, the codes
that basically allow us to launch nuclear weaponry, if needed.
Patterson: That’s right, Tom. He actually
lost those codes in 1998 and the codes are really a little credit
card sized document the President carries on his person 24 hours
a day, 7 days a week and has ever since President Eisenhower back
in the Œ50s. President Clinton lost those codes in ‘98
about the same time the Monica Lewinsky scandal was in full force.
So there was a lot going on in his world and he obviously dropped
the ball there as far as national security was concerned. What alarmed
me, Tom, more than anything else, was the fact that he couldn’t
recall how long they’d been lost. It really could have been
weeks if not months that maybe we didn’t have the ability
to launch the nuclear attack or retaliatory strike.
Fitton: So for who knows how long, as a result
of Bill Clinton’s liaisons with Monica Lewinsky and subsequent
cover up, the United States military was decapitated, in terms of
being able to use its nuclear weaponry.
Patterson: Yes, and if those codes fell into the
wrong hands, our enemies would have gained an understanding of how
we prosecute a nuclear war or retaliate a nuclear war. They could
have set a lot of great information from those codes if they¹d
wanted to.
Fitton: Well maybe one of the Chinese communists
who were traipsing in and out of the White House in the Clinton
fundraisers took it as a party favor. You saw a lot of illegal fund-raising
activity, didn’t you Buzz?
Patterson: Absolutely.
Fitton: Describe it.
Patterson: That was constant, Tom. It was just
almost every single day we were doing something with the White House.
They were obviously selling the Lincoln Bedroom, selling flights
on Air Force One. They focused on raising money for the DNC and
it bothered me. For example, we’d go to New York for a couple
of days. There’d be one official event and about seven or
eight fundraisers and it would be called an official visit and it
would be taxpayer funded. I thought that was highly unethical, if
not illegal.
Fitton: The President’s disrespect for the
military and for women really came to a head on Air Force One.
Patterson: That’s exactly right. He, in
fact, cornered and sexually molested an Air Force One flight attendant
who was also a member of the United States Air Force as an enlisted
personnel member. Again, he got away with it with just an apology
a couple of weeks later. I talked to him about his dereliction of
duties as Commander in Chief. If that had been anybody in uniform
in the Armed Forces, they would have been not only court-marshaled,
but jailed. He gets off with an apology.
Fitton: We don’t need to describe how important
Osama bin Laden is in terms of national security and the threat
he poses and the devastation he’s brought upon our nation.
Bill Clinton missed opportunities to stop him, didn’t he?
Patterson: A couple of those opportunities occurred
during my time there. The Sudan government offered to give bin Laden
to us on a silver platter and Clinton refused based on the lack
of evidence. In 1998, we had definitely tied bin Laden to al Qaeda
and to terrorist activities against American citizens abroad on
several occasions. We had actually located bin Laden and pinpointed
his location very, very specifically. We had a Tomahawk missile
strike planned to assassinate him, but we only had a two-hour window.
President Clinton couldn’t be located. And then when we finally
got him on the phone, he waffled until bin Laden got away and no
strike was taken.
Fitton: What do you mean, you couldn’t locate
the President? Where was he?
Patterson: He was playing golf.
Fitton: Your book is full of specific instances
of scandals, sexual improprieties, treating the White House and
Air Force One like a brothel. And you make some broad points about
the impact that sort of attitude had on our national security structure
overall.
Patterson: Absolutely. We’re fighting the
war in Afghanistan and on terrorism and in Iraq. North Korea is
on the horizon. In my mind, all those are a direct result of the
eight years of denial and neglect on the part of the Clinton administration.
Fitton: Buzz Patterson, Lieutenant Colonel Retired,
thanks for joining us. Good luck with the sale of your book. Dereliction
of Duty is in bookstores everywhere.