i'm too afraid to say who i am because AA might come after me. in the dark of night, find where my kids go to school, call me racist, cyberattacks.... do they have long knives?
Mon, 08/11/2008 - 3:36pm — Randy Churchill (not verified)
Please let me know if I can volunteer to help. I am a CPA and am outraged that any group (left or right) in the political arena would have the gall to send out such a document to people participating. AA can first get rid of its "nonpartisan" mantra right now. Second, their being a (c)(4) does not give license to participate in grass roots politics and to possibly violate federal election law (your primary area of expertise). Consider me a volunteer to help you if I can be of help. THIS INTIMIDATION IS GOING TO STOP NOW!
Thank you. I talked to my wife about this on Friday, and she came to the same conclusion as I - this is an ugly escalation in an already ugly game of politics. I can see the Ku Klux Klan angle now, but my first reaction was that it felt like a protection racket, and that they were really offering a way out of trouble, if we just didn't contribute...
Anyway, I hope these people like the light of day; thanks for shining it on them.
How about these "freedom fighters" ? Seems they can say anything about Conservatives that they want. Our side tries to do the same thing and the Libs but their Burkenstock heel on our necks ! Thank Soros for helping to gum up our election process. You know hes somehow behind these fruitcakes.
I agree with the CPA. The rules about being a 501(c)(4) a pretty clear. The regulations forbid:
"Direct or indirect participation or intervention in a political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office"
By electing to be a (c)(4) they attempt to show they are non-partisan. However, their public words show otherwise. It may be possible to get their status reviewed fairly quickly and if nothing else force them to register as an advocacy group.
Then as an advocacy group it would be easier to look at 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3)and other laws preventing intimidation.
Tue, 08/12/2008 - 9:14am — Robert Conner (not verified)
Just another in a long line of demonstrated left-wing hypocrisy. It conservatives made a similar threat to LSD's (Liberals/Socialists/Democrats), it would be splashed all over the media, and there would be congressional hearings held.
I hope those morons send me one of these letters. I really do.
I'd go after them, legally, for attempting to violate my civil rights, invasion of privacy, and whatever else I can think of.
So, "AA", what I say to you is, BRING IT ON! Punks.
I am a Conservative country boy by nature. And PROUD of it.
What is Big John says from UFC...."Bring it on"
Be sure this old dawg still has a lot of bite.
American 1ST("Clinging to my guns and Religion....)(Thanks for that line BO)
CONSERVATIVE 2ND
Thank Judicial Watch for stnding up for every American's God given right to vote. These people think thay can intimidate us into the shadows and allow the country to become a socialist haven are saddly mistaken. I believe this will backfire on them, they will do nothing galvenize Conservatives to fight back. Just because they started this campaign of intimidation I donated $ 100.00 to John McCain's Campaign.
They can look into my past and they will find alot of skelatons, so what.
I had read a story about this a few weeks back. At the time, I was positive if it was true, the effort would die out quickly. However, I also was very upset that any group, conservative or liberal, would think its proper to threaten citizens and to demand they not participate in our democratic process.
To do this, a group has to be outside the law. Demanding someone comport with specific orders of one group over another is a racket. Organized crime tried to do this and eventually they were exposed and prosecuted for their actions. However, in the meantime, they adversely affected the outcome of who knows how many elections?! In today's world, the time available to wait for such groups to be prosecuted is very little. Time is the critical element in such affairs today.
These folks should be prosecuted under "RICO Act" guidelines, plus they should face federal election law violations prosecutions. In addition to this, if these group actually carry out their threats, investigators should look at who all is behind such an organization. Because those pushing this group into action should also face prosecution. The uber wealthy have lately used their wealth to force actions by politicians and government officials, that is either not in the public interests or provides them with a specific result that is in their special interests. Either is a crime against the American public.
We have people involved in our political processes today who should not be involved. We have international financial types, international diplomatic types, foreign governments types, and others who are not citizens, actively acting to affect our national political system. These actions must be curtailed immediately. There is no justification of a foreign entity acting to affect our political processes. And, the wealthy do not participate in these activities w/o expecting substantial returns for their investments. George Soros is a citizen as far as I know. However, why would a billionaire invest the "HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars he has, unless he expected to be able to demand a return for his favors? He cannot become president, but he can pull the strings of the presidency if a president owes him favors for the money's he has contributed. No one invests these kinds of money's unless they expect or have been promised specific favors in return. If no favors are expected or promised, then why would one of these very wealthy people invest so much money?
Judicial Watch does American citizens great justice when they watch over these activities and those involved, and when their investigations uncover and allow legal proceedings to be conducted to prosecute those who violate our laws, because they used their influences to force results that otherwise in a fair accounting would never have happened!
Go get em JW!
Steve Carter, Attorney General
Indiana Government Center
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate Indiana Elections Code 3-8-3-11, Delegates to national convention; support of candidate on first ballot
Dear Attorney General Carter:
Here in Indiana, obeying the above-cited law means that pledged delegates selected as the result of votes cast for Senator Clinton in the Presidential primary election must vote for her during first-round balloting at the nominating convention of the Democratic Party. But in what can at best be interpreted as an overzealous advocacy on behalf of Senator Obama, in states throughout the country, including Indiana, proponents for his nomination have bombarded Senator Clinton’s delegates with subtle and not-so-subtle pressures to commit to switching support to him, before the convention. Or, failing that, they replace the Clinton-pledged delegate with one loyal to Obama. (See examples below. Note that while the first link shows the copy of a letter Senator Obama’s campaign sent to pledged delegates in Georgia, they distributed this same letter to delegates in all states. And Georgia, like Indiana, mandates pledged delegates to follow their candidates into the convention.)
Therefore, in Indiana (and Michigan, and Texas, and California, and numerous other states), encouraging delegates entrusted with representing the political preference of Clinton voters to pledge their support before the convention to Obama solicits these delegates to break the law. As a concerned citizen of Indiana, I am bringing this matter to your immediate attention, anticipating you will take appropriate action to ensure from now on, any campaigning in this state related to the upcoming Democratic National Convention is consistent with Indiana laws.
“Explain, Dems tell Clinton delegate” (article on state party efforts to discipline Colorado delegate for Clinton for refusing to switch to Obama) http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_10170139
I am pleased that someone mentioned the intimidation of Hillary Clinton
supporters, delegates and voters.
Voter fraud is one of the hallmarks of the Obama Camp.
Obama has a long history of ties to Acorn, known for being involved
in voter fraud.
The law makes it illegal to intimidate, a "before the fact" action. Once an individual has made a contribution or supports an advertisement then he or she becomes fair game. There is nothing illegal about exposing the people behind an ad AFTER the fact. What's illegal is trying to get them not to participate in the electoral process. AA were fools to announce their intentions and leave themselves open to prosecution.
When you think about Obama & Biden........you see EVIL
When you think of Bush & Cheney........... you see SATANISM
When you think of aliens that they trained you see satanism
Soros who is backing Obama is footing the big bill on this is really not a bad guy. He gave 50Billion to Africa to feed the starving that the SATAN'S starved to death or killed millions. That is a good guy. He believes in freedom of the press and media. Do we really want to be left in the dark?
Alot of people will be surprised to find out how badly we have brain washed. It goes alot deeper that the press & media. I hope that you wake up and know it in your heart before it happens so you will be prepared somewhat
He will be the one leading our Country and I think I will be very happy. I can't believe that Obama will want to put us in concentration camps as the satan twins want to do
Our world is not over populated-its too big and smart for the evil ones to keep brain washing us. They need to be stopped. and Personally, I dont give a shit how they do it.
JUST DO IT Enough people have been killed
thanks for all the prayers and meditations people
Now we need to be ready to all the many evilness out there that do want us dead and like wanted it yesterday!
I hope that this is stopped prior to what the evil twins start the war with russia or start killing us with some phoney earthquake
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to afraid
i'm too afraid to say who i am because AA might come after me. in the dark of night, find where my kids go to school, call me racist, cyberattacks.... do they have long knives?
I will help if needed
Judicial Watch:
Please let me know if I can volunteer to help. I am a CPA and am outraged that any group (left or right) in the political arena would have the gall to send out such a document to people participating. AA can first get rid of its "nonpartisan" mantra right now. Second, their being a (c)(4) does not give license to participate in grass roots politics and to possibly violate federal election law (your primary area of expertise). Consider me a volunteer to help you if I can be of help. THIS INTIMIDATION IS GOING TO STOP NOW!
Need volunteers?
I would be happy to assist in taking down this shamefully unAmerican thuggery.
protection.
Thank you. I talked to my wife about this on Friday, and she came to the same conclusion as I - this is an ugly escalation in an already ugly game of politics. I can see the Ku Klux Klan angle now, but my first reaction was that it felt like a protection racket, and that they were really offering a way out of trouble, if we just didn't contribute...
Anyway, I hope these people like the light of day; thanks for shining it on them.
Good little Socialists.........................
How about these "freedom fighters" ? Seems they can say anything about Conservatives that they want. Our side tries to do the same thing and the Libs but their Burkenstock heel on our necks ! Thank Soros for helping to gum up our election process. You know hes somehow behind these fruitcakes.
Which violation is easier to prove?
I agree with the CPA. The rules about being a 501(c)(4) a pretty clear. The regulations forbid:
"Direct or indirect participation or intervention in a political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office"
By electing to be a (c)(4) they attempt to show they are non-partisan. However, their public words show otherwise. It may be possible to get their status reviewed fairly quickly and if nothing else force them to register as an advocacy group.
Then as an advocacy group it would be easier to look at 42 U.S.C. § 1985(3)and other laws preventing intimidation.
BRING IT ON!
Just another in a long line of demonstrated left-wing hypocrisy. It conservatives made a similar threat to LSD's (Liberals/Socialists/Democrats), it would be splashed all over the media, and there would be congressional hearings held.
I hope those morons send me one of these letters. I really do.
I'd go after them, legally, for attempting to violate my civil rights, invasion of privacy, and whatever else I can think of.
So, "AA", what I say to you is, BRING IT ON! Punks.
I am a Conservative country
I am a Conservative country boy by nature. And PROUD of it.
What is Big John says from UFC...."Bring it on"
Be sure this old dawg still has a lot of bite.
American 1ST("Clinging to my guns and Religion....)(Thanks for that line BO)
CONSERVATIVE 2ND
Glad you guys are there.
Linked to your press released from Judicial Watch Launches Investigation of, Accountable America, effort to Intimidate Conservatives
Bring it on you schmucks!!!!!!
Thank Judicial Watch for stnding up for every American's God given right to vote. These people think thay can intimidate us into the shadows and allow the country to become a socialist haven are saddly mistaken. I believe this will backfire on them, they will do nothing galvenize Conservatives to fight back. Just because they started this campaign of intimidation I donated $ 100.00 to John McCain's Campaign.
They can look into my past and they will find alot of skelatons, so what.
BRING IT ON SCHMUCKS
Despicable Intimidation Tactics
I had read a story about this a few weeks back. At the time, I was positive if it was true, the effort would die out quickly. However, I also was very upset that any group, conservative or liberal, would think its proper to threaten citizens and to demand they not participate in our democratic process.
To do this, a group has to be outside the law. Demanding someone comport with specific orders of one group over another is a racket. Organized crime tried to do this and eventually they were exposed and prosecuted for their actions. However, in the meantime, they adversely affected the outcome of who knows how many elections?! In today's world, the time available to wait for such groups to be prosecuted is very little. Time is the critical element in such affairs today.
These folks should be prosecuted under "RICO Act" guidelines, plus they should face federal election law violations prosecutions. In addition to this, if these group actually carry out their threats, investigators should look at who all is behind such an organization. Because those pushing this group into action should also face prosecution. The uber wealthy have lately used their wealth to force actions by politicians and government officials, that is either not in the public interests or provides them with a specific result that is in their special interests. Either is a crime against the American public.
We have people involved in our political processes today who should not be involved. We have international financial types, international diplomatic types, foreign governments types, and others who are not citizens, actively acting to affect our national political system. These actions must be curtailed immediately. There is no justification of a foreign entity acting to affect our political processes. And, the wealthy do not participate in these activities w/o expecting substantial returns for their investments. George Soros is a citizen as far as I know. However, why would a billionaire invest the "HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of dollars he has, unless he expected to be able to demand a return for his favors? He cannot become president, but he can pull the strings of the presidency if a president owes him favors for the money's he has contributed. No one invests these kinds of money's unless they expect or have been promised specific favors in return. If no favors are expected or promised, then why would one of these very wealthy people invest so much money?
Judicial Watch does American citizens great justice when they watch over these activities and those involved, and when their investigations uncover and allow legal proceedings to be conducted to prosecute those who violate our laws, because they used their influences to force results that otherwise in a fair accounting would never have happened!
Go get em JW!
Intimidating conservatives
Intimidating conservatives sounds like fun. If they can do it, we can do it.
harrassment
Steve Carter, Attorney General
Indiana Government Center
SUBJECT: Solicitation to Violate Indiana Elections Code 3-8-3-11, Delegates to national convention; support of candidate on first ballot
Dear Attorney General Carter:
Here in Indiana, obeying the above-cited law means that pledged delegates selected as the result of votes cast for Senator Clinton in the Presidential primary election must vote for her during first-round balloting at the nominating convention of the Democratic Party. But in what can at best be interpreted as an overzealous advocacy on behalf of Senator Obama, in states throughout the country, including Indiana, proponents for his nomination have bombarded Senator Clinton’s delegates with subtle and not-so-subtle pressures to commit to switching support to him, before the convention. Or, failing that, they replace the Clinton-pledged delegate with one loyal to Obama. (See examples below. Note that while the first link shows the copy of a letter Senator Obama’s campaign sent to pledged delegates in Georgia, they distributed this same letter to delegates in all states. And Georgia, like Indiana, mandates pledged delegates to follow their candidates into the convention.)
Therefore, in Indiana (and Michigan, and Texas, and California, and numerous other states), encouraging delegates entrusted with representing the political preference of Clinton voters to pledge their support before the convention to Obama solicits these delegates to break the law. As a concerned citizen of Indiana, I am bringing this matter to your immediate attention, anticipating you will take appropriate action to ensure from now on, any campaigning in this state related to the upcoming Democratic National Convention is consistent with Indiana laws.
Sincerely,
References: “Bearing Witness” (posting of letter from Khalil Thompson, Obama for America, Chicago) http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/08/bearing-witness.html
Clinton supporters protesting removal of delegate at Democratic National Convention http://www.whas11.com/news/local/stories/WHAS11_POLITICS_080814_CLINTONO...
“Explain, Dems tell Clinton delegate” (article on state party efforts to discipline Colorado delegate for Clinton for refusing to switch to Obama)
http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_10170139
Copy: Todd Rokita, Secretary of State
Dan Parker, Chair, Indiana Democratic Party
dparker@indems.org
Obama thugs
I am pleased that someone mentioned the intimidation of Hillary Clinton
supporters, delegates and voters.
Voter fraud is one of the hallmarks of the Obama Camp.
Obama has a long history of ties to Acorn, known for being involved
in voter fraud.
The law makes it illegal to
The law makes it illegal to intimidate, a "before the fact" action. Once an individual has made a contribution or supports an advertisement then he or she becomes fair game. There is nothing illegal about exposing the people behind an ad AFTER the fact. What's illegal is trying to get them not to participate in the electoral process. AA were fools to announce their intentions and leave themselves open to prosecution.
OUR WORLD TODAY
When you think about Obama & Biden........you see EVIL
When you think of Bush & Cheney........... you see SATANISM
When you think of aliens that they trained you see satanism
Soros who is backing Obama is footing the big bill on this is really not a bad guy. He gave 50Billion to Africa to feed the starving that the SATAN'S starved to death or killed millions. That is a good guy. He believes in freedom of the press and media. Do we really want to be left in the dark?
Alot of people will be surprised to find out how badly we have brain washed. It goes alot deeper that the press & media. I hope that you wake up and know it in your heart before it happens so you will be prepared somewhat
He will be the one leading our Country and I think I will be very happy. I can't believe that Obama will want to put us in concentration camps as the satan twins want to do
Our world is not over populated-its too big and smart for the evil ones to keep brain washing us. They need to be stopped. and Personally, I dont give a shit how they do it.
JUST DO IT Enough people have been killed
thanks for all the prayers and meditations people
Now we need to be ready to all the many evilness out there that do want us dead and like wanted it yesterday!
I hope that this is stopped prior to what the evil twins start the war with russia or start killing us with some phoney earthquake
Re: Our World Today
You are right when we think of Obama & Biden .... You see EVIL.
But when you think Bush & Cheney .... You see PROTECTION FROM TERROR!
Wake up fool and look around you. Have we been attacked on our soil since 9/11/01?
If you think you will like the way that "loon" Soros will run Obama & Biden then you might want to consider moving to Europe.
Love this country or leave it. No one is forcing you to stay here.
Wow - are you for real?
Wow - are you for real? PROTECTION FROM TERROR! Geez, quit terrorizing people, will ya?