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Judicial Watch: Benghazi Documents Point to White House on Misleading Talking Points

Judicial Watch: Benghazi Documents Point to White House on Misleading Talking Points

APRIL 29, 2014

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that on April 18, 2014, it obtained 41 new Benghazi-related State Department documents. They include a newly declassified email showing then-White House Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes and other Obama administration public relations officials attempting to orchestrate a campaign to “reinforce” President Obama and to portray the Benghazi consulate terrorist attack as being “rooted in an Internet video, and not a failure of policy.”  Other documents show that State Department officials initially described the incident as an “attack” and a possible kidnap attempt.

The documents were released Friday as result of a June 21, 2013, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed against the Department of State (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State (No. 1:13-cv-00951)) to gain access to documents about the controversial talking points used by then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice for a series of appearances on television Sunday news programs on September 16, 2012.  Judicial Watch had been seeking these documents since October 18, 2012.

The Rhodes email was sent on sent on Friday, September 14, 2012, at 8:09 p.m. with the subject line:  “RE: PREP CALL with Susan, Saturday at 4:00 pm ET.”  The documents show that the “prep” was for Amb. Rice’s Sunday news show appearances to discuss the Benghazi attack.

The document lists as a “Goal”: “To underscore that these protests are rooted in and Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”

Rhodes returns to the “Internet video” scenario later in the email, the first point in a section labeled “Top-lines”:

[W]e’ve made our views on this video crystal clear. The United States government had nothing to do with it. We reject its message and its contents. We find it disgusting and reprehensible. But there is absolutely no justification at all for responding to this movie with violence. And we are working to make sure that people around the globe hear that message.

Among the top administration PR personnel who received the Rhodes memo were White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, Deputy Press Secretary Joshua Earnest, then-White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer, then-White House Deputy Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri, then-National Security Council Director of Communications Erin Pelton, Special Assistant to the Press Secretary Howli Ledbetter, and then-White House Senior Advisor and political strategist David Plouffe.

The Rhodes communications strategy email also instructs recipients to portray Obama as “steady and statesmanlike” throughout the crisis. Another of the “Goals” of the PR offensive, Rhodes says, is “[T]o reinforce the President and Administration’s strength and steadiness in dealing with difficult challenges.” He later includes as a PR “Top-line” talking point:

I think that people have come to trust that President Obama provides leadership that is steady and statesmanlike. There are always going to be challenges that emerge around the world, and time and again, he has shown that we can meet them.

The documents Judicial Watch obtained also include a September 12, 2012, email from former Deputy Spokesman at U.S. Mission to the United Nations Payton Knopf to Susan Rice, noting that at a press briefing earlier that day, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland explicitly stated that the attack on the consulate had been well planned.  The email sent by Knopf to Rice at 5:42 pm said:

Responding to a question about whether it was an organized terror attack, Toria said that she couldn’t speak to the identity of the perpetrators but that it was clearly a complex attack.

In the days following the Knopf email, Rice appeared on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox News and CNN still claiming the assaults occurred “spontaneously” in response to the “hateful video.” On Sunday, September 16 Rice told CBS’s “Face the Nation:

But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy–sparked by this hateful video.

The Judicial Watch documents confirm that CIA talking points, that were prepared for Congress and may have been used by Rice on “Face the Nation” and four additional Sunday talk shows on September 16, had been heavily edited by then-CIA deputy director Mike Morell. According to one email:

The first draft apparently seemed unsuitable….because they seemed to encourage the reader to infer incorrectly that the CIA had warned about a specific attack on our embassy.  On the SVTS, Morell noted that these points were not good and he had taken a heavy hand to editing them. He noted that he would be happy to work with [then deputy chief of staff to Hillary Clinton]] Jake Sullivan and Rhodes to develop appropriate talking points.

The documents obtained by Judicial Watch also contain numerous emails sent during the assault on the Benghazi diplomatic facility.  The contemporaneous and dramatic emails describe the assault as an “attack”:

As reported, the Benghazi compound came under attack and it took a bit of time for the ‘Annex’ colleagues and Libyan February 17 brigade to secure it. One of our colleagues was killed – IMO Sean Smith. Amb Chris Stevens, who was visiting Benghazi this week is missing.  U.S. and Libyan colleagues are looking for him…

At 8:51 pm, Pelofsky tells Rice and others that “Post received a call from a person using an [sic] RSO phone that Chris was given saying the caller was with a person matching Chris’s description at a hospital and that he was alive and well.  Of course, if the he were alive and well, one could ask why he didn’t make the call himself.”

Later that evening, Pelofsky emailed Rice that he was “very, very worried.  In particular that he [Stevens] is either dead or this was a concerted effort to kidnap him.”  Rice replied, “God forbid.”

  • September 11, 2012, 4:49 PM – State Department press officer John Fogarty reporting on “Libya update from Beth Jones”:

Beth Jones [Acting Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs] just spoke with DCM Tripoli Greg Hicks, who advised a Libyan militia (we now know this is the 17th Feb brigade, as requested by Emb office) is responding to the attackon the diplomatic mission in Benghazi.”

Material is blacked out (or redacted) in many emails.

“Now we know the Obama White House’s chief concern about the Benghazi attack was making sure that President Obama looked good,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “And these documents undermine the Obama administration’s narrative that it thought the Benghazi attack had something to do with protests or an Internet video.  Given the explosive material in these documents, it is no surprise that we had to go to federal court to pry them loose from the Obama State Department.”

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  • Abu Nudnik

    Blacking out a name is to censor it, not to redact it. Redaction is the seamless joining of two or more documents into one. You could also call it “editing out.”

  • Joyce A. Luna

    You know I wondered the same thing. There are just not enough votes to get our governor elected for the first time or second but he got in? I do not know anyone who says they voted for 0him or even liked him yet he is in.???Same with President Obama, and some of our Senators from Tennessee.??? We need more watch over the voting machines and we need to know who is voting beside dead people.

  • M. N.

    Such thoughtful insight. Thank you for paying attention. Interesting that the Nazi’s also thought that they were good. I suspect that’s why we have laws/constitution, so we can prevent the type of do-gooder overthrow that’s occuring. IMHO, good can only be truly good when everyone wins. And, so far the American people are getting raped by the do-gooders…lol

  • Kernighan

    I have little doubt you are right. I think some CNS mechanism which probably serves a perfectly good purpose allowing the mind to disregard certain information or conflicting information when needed, probably kicks in here in an inopportune time, based more upon societal cues, like group membership. I’ve been theorizing that there is a desire for a sort of “packaged goodness” self image that people seek. They wish to affiliate themselves with a pre-packaged “movement” which automatically confers “goodness” upon it’s members, thus affirming their positive self image, without lots of extra work, like actually going out and physically helping people. [some people do actually go out and help, but they are in the minority]

    There was some interesting audio on radio where someone like PJ Media or Media Research went out and was signing people up to petition that the migrant children be brought to an affluent liberal area of Virginia. Once they got people to sign up to bring children to the area, then they asked people to give address and contact info to have migrant children stay with them in their home, or apartment. There was not one person who offered to actually have a migrant live in their home, though many wanted the migrants brought to their town. They want “someone else” or “government” to do the helping, not themselves.

  • M. N.

    While, I might agree that it’s fascinating intrigue – for an abnormal pshychology professor, it’s frightening to know that such thinking is seen with more regularity. If I had to equate it to anything, it’s like the self-preservation mode that people go into after trauma – they distort the reality so that they don’t have to face the consequences of bad choices… Seems that we could have more pathology out there than there is medication…lol

  • Kernighan

    It’s fascinating and a wonderful thing that we get to examine this person’s remarks. He must be an amazing person to live with, live near, work with or deal with in general. To this person ANYTHING, any behavior, no matter how reprehensible, immature, irresponsible, deceptive and generally malignant, IF NOT A CRIME, is of no consequence whatsoever. The ONLY barometer of behavior is whether it violates criminal code. This is one of those prime examples of someone who is so deeply, fully, mentally and emotionally invested in something, that all rational effort is focused upon keeping that important “relationship”, that “belonging” going, no matter what it takes. What a fine example of peculiar psychology.

  • Kernighan

    You can see a fine example of this black market trade in Terry Reed’s book “Compromised” which is available as a used book on Amazon. It covers the actions during “Iran – Contra” out of Mena, AR airport and other locations in Arkansas. Governor Bill Clinton was aware of this activity and received benefits from it. Eventually the arms to the Contras were manufactured in Arkansas, but had to have the factory operation moved to Mexico. Reed has been sued but the suits dismissed routinely, presumably because he can easily prove it.

  • piglett

    whether it was the legal wrangles wen two Democratic civil rights lawyers were married and in the White House, or
    more recently the two lawyers and the Dept of Justice Lawyer in Chief, it was pretty predictiable that this administration would become
    moribund with legal opinions in conflict with each other and taking some manner of te Fifth, or just “settling” claims with administrative IRS policy and regulations, to cover up all the American conflict between criminal law and civil law, exceptionalized and special rights bias and law, or just plain layering and confusion and disagreement over existing or settled law, by lawyers coming from different experience and working knowledge of exisiting rules and regulation. The troup of Democrats have just figured out and lawyered upon the past exceptions and demonstrations of money laundering and manipulation of equal rights and equal enforcement, by political parties and political bias by the appointees who now number in the thousands and millions if converted to career status after a election.
    Marketing and advertising has taken the place of “education and training” in the Federal workforce. Even changing the Hatch Act back in the 90’s, has enhanced and streamlined State politician ability to use Federal Funds to advertise their own names, in lieu of spending money entitely on voters rights, or DWI or any number of other stupid schemes.

  • grunion

    You are deeply confused. I’ll pray for you. You are going to need it.

  • grunion

    You make everyone weary…Go away troll!

  • grunion

    How is the kool-aid today???

  • JMM

    Reid needs to be committed to a facility for dementia.

  • JMM

    ROTFLMAO…legitimately? Good job or worst President in US History?

  • Ron

    I do not know how this once great nation became what it is today. Surely there is not enough votes to put a person like obama into the most powerful office in the land. Tell me, surely this nation is not that stupid. obama is the bottom of the barrel, well, he and hillary are tied for the position and she is going to run for president. Unbelievable!

  • AnnaGraceS

    barry soetoro is a filthy lying muslim that is hell bent on destroying the country I love. He is a TREASONOUS criminal and Congress does nothing to stop him!! He came into this country as a foreign student and got government money to attend college!! barry is the biggest enemy of the people and he resides in our White House!!

  • DOC H.

    OBAMA is a Islamic PLANT to destroy this country from within, there’s got to be a way to get his college documents to see if he’s a foreign student to prove he never was eligible to become POTUS. That would stop ALL THIS MESS.

  • jagragg

    “Impeached?” Congress is just as guilty of criminal conduct as Obama is. They’ll make allot of noise, but nothing will happen. The ONLY way to make anything positive happen in Washington, D.C., is for 2-3 million citizens descend on it with “torches & pitchforks.” Its time to “take over” or RUN!

  • kikorikid

    Due to obfuscation and lies the Administration continues to march.
    What does a place like, Waterloo, look like in the 21st Century?

  • kikorikid

    “at this time, What differences does it make?”

  • haifisch8587

    Aren’t the least bit embarrassed by what you have written as rebuttals? Are you hoping for a job when hillary is elected? I can’t believe you actually believe what you are writing but then again, what WH spokesman (for any administration) actually believes what he says on camera. Souls for sale?

  • haifisch8587

    The far left fiction writers had a field day with the OBL fable knowing that they would have a receptive audience with BO voters. I saw the anti- muslim video and at first I thought, despite its very funny content, it would be enough to drive the muslims over the edge given their history of violence. Remember the Swedish cartoonist who had to go into hiding because he drew some funny pictures. So given the obvious contempt this administration has for the average american voter, I can see why they would try to float this story.

  • haifisch8587

    Bush ready? Do you live in a cave? This kind of blind partisanship is what will guarantee Hillary the top spot. Those who will vote her into office know nothing of her history. Another self inflicted wound among many. Look in the mirror and recognize your slavish subservience to party politics is why we have these *** running the country. Truly pathetic.

  • haifisch8587

    Once those in power realize that there is no accountability, regardless of how egregious the actions, there is no limitation on what activities can be promoted. No federal employee can be fired although some may be pressured to resign. i am quite sure that none of these who resign lose pensions and are probably well rewarded for falling on their swords. Regarding IRS chief Lois Lerner’s missing emails: there are many ways that these emails can be retrieved even if the hard drives were destroyed. It is obvious that congress really has no intention to recover these emails despite their posturing while on camera.

    How did our form of government, which we claim should be a model for the world to emulate, become so corrupt?

  • bob cratchette

    says the kettle, drink more of the kool aid son, it is obvious there is no hope for you as you have been infected with the obama brain worm and it has eaten your little pea brain away and you have become and obamzie mumbling urecognizeable idiocies

  • bob cratchette

    they did torture terrorists there they made them look at naked pics of hillary

  • bob cratchette

    obama did not even know he was black till he seen it on television

  • Pauls1

    This needs to resolved and all guilty persons need to serve prison sentences including the TOP DOG.

  • Bill Senior

    By all your uninformed and ignorance here on this blog … I see you as, a Left Wing Nut Job and Nitwit Obama voter! Go away … your starting to stink up the place!

  • Ralph Trout

    NO…he doesn’t NEED to be impeached….he MUST be impeached…it may already be too late because of obamacare is already making more SLAVES day by day…

  • boys3rsk

    Crawl back under your COMMUNIST/MUSLIM rock TROLL. You are almost as DUMB as Obama. Semper Fi

  • Enigma

    I do not care what your politics are,,what i see in this country is a Far cry from Transparency , a far cry from Accountability, Obamacare is a far cry from affordable, and if i am not mistaken that is the Big BAby of the Democrats and no Conservative would touch it , wisely so,.so the Far right thing you are talking about is really just a need to return to sanity and forget these people who have found it ok to look the other way to much of that has been done already.

  • Enigma

    If there is nothing to hide, then why hide anything?, why is it the burden of the American people to get to the Truth of anything? it isnt thats why these people take Oaths of Office, not to see what they can get away with, to stand on their Commitments and be honest and dignified, They are Not Paid to Lie,deceive,or anyway Cover-up anything, but you would think that is what they are paid to do, question is Who is paying these people to keep things hidden?, Me? YOU? i didnt think so, in fact if I had my way, the entire Administration would be Investigated and Impeachment Procedures would not just be something Thought of, Accountability is necessary, and when its considered not Necessary , then we have Real Problems in this country. Look Around.

  • M. N.

    You are so right, but we need to work hard to reshape nitwit/dimwit brain function and the only way I know to do this, without insisting medication be ordered, is to do the broken record thing, hoping that somehow something will eventually sink in… :)

  • reason1984

    I’m afraid you are tossing pearls to a troll.

    WaPo gave the WH ‘funding’ talking point three out of four Pinocchios. I’m surprised that their are still dimwits clinging to that canard.

  • M. N.

    You’re like a bad criminal…can get caught with the goods in hand and deny that you stole…

  • M. N.

    It’s already been put out there that embassy budgets were not the cause of the problem and the more people like yourself blame it on money, the less reason these nitwits have to change their operating patterns. The administration got in over their heads and was not capable of tweaking resources to meet objectives. Using the term partisan politics every time something unintelligible happens in this administration does not shelter it from the responsibility to act in accordance with the oaths taken. If anything, Partisan Politics is very important, especially when one side is so short sighted that it can’t work through policy without mucking everything up along the way. People are engaging in Partisan Politics because the left is running a muck and those who see it are mainly on the right.

  • M. N.

    Nagan was the class idiot that failed N.O. and he’s paying for it now having been charged and convicted of massive corruption. 9/11 was a new dimension in terrorism, something that would have caught anyone off guard if there was no advanced, direct knowledge of the event. In response to that real threat, the government stepped up security in the US and now people are angry because it’s messing with individual liberty… Your interpretation of the Rhodes email is off…

  • M. N.

    Did you miss the header – Benghazi – in these emails? Everything was directly related to context of Benghazi…

  • M. N.

    It appears we already have as there is essentially no one being held accountable for many of these illegal/unethical activities. I mean really – selling guns to criminals in large quantities and actually expecting to maintain control of the weapons? Not the sharpest pencils in the box… So many things going on that aren’t right or responsible and so few real answers or accountability.

  • Barry Shitepoke

    Game over, 0bama needs to be impeached.

  • boys3rsk

    OBAMA and Hillary were running arms to Turkey, and then to Syria. Hagmann and Hagmann radio show had Tosh Plumlee the former C.I.A. agent on their program. Plumlee said the C.I.A has been running arms and drugs all over the world foe 60 YEARS. This is a big CASH COW for our POLITICIANS because they get kickbacks from the arms LOBBYISTS. The C.I.A buy their arms from the International Arms Merchants that have warehouses all over the world. The C.I.A call this operation the Green Lattern Project. They have been running arms and drugs since before Kennedy’s assasination, Iran Contra, the Fast and Furious arms to the Mexican DRUG cartels that got Brian Terry killed, and now Benghazi. THAT is the SECRET Obama and Hillary don’t want the American people to find out. OUR GOVERNMENT is arming BOTH sides of the conflict in the mid- east. That is TREASON. Semper Fi

  • Harvey Pearson

    The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence concluded (in non-acronym terminology) that members of the following al-Qaeda -connected terrorist groups participated in the attack on our Benghazi Mission: al-Qa’da in the lands of the Islamic Maghreb, Answar al Sharia, al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and the Mohammed Jamal Network.

  • reason1984

    I’ve read that theory (Paula Broadwell revelation), but wonder why al-Qaeda wouldn’t expose that for political gain, much as Abu Ghraib, and Guantanamo are used in their propaganda efforts.

    Attacks on Western interests in Benghazi had occurred during the run up to 9/11, and we know that the ‘mission’ was under surveillance. I think it was an operation to assassinate an exposed high value target as a response to UBL’s elimination.

    The irony here is that those involved in the assault were likely unaware that Stevens was coordinating arms shipments to the FSA with the Turkish Consulate General shortly before the attack.

  • beowolfe

    Yes, they were. And do you know why? There was a CIA secret prison in Benghazi.

  • reason1984

    Harvey Pearson wrote that an ‘al-Qaeda connected terrorist group’ was involved in the attack.

    Actually, there was more than one.

    AQAP, AQIM, and Ansar al-Sharia were involved in the attack.

    Holder’s DoJ indicted members of those organizations for their part in the attack.

    Harvey is right, and you are uninformed.

  • reason1984

    Tommy Vietor is indeed a talking head.

  • reason1984

    Trolls engage in name calling to divert from the reality that they have no facts to argue.

  • reason1984

    You’re tossing pearls to swine.

  • falling321

    There are some who say Bin Laden is not dead, but I’m not one of them…If you re-read my comment, you will find that my emphasis was on the second half of Obama’s platform, meaning the flat out lie that al Qaeda was on the run, when it obviously was not. Nor did I address the legitimacy of Obama’s election. However I do reject the idea that he has done a good job. His presidency has been nothing but one failure after the other. Our economy is in the tank. Unemployment/under employment is far worse than it was when he was elected. Obamacare is a miserable failure. The number on food stamps and other government programs has sky rocketed. The middle east is still on fire and Russia is invading it’s neighbors. We are a laughing stock in the world’s eyes and we are 7 1/2 TRILLION deeper in debt! And last quarter 43% of all houses purchased in the US were bought by foreign investment companies who paid cash, all while we just reached another record monthly high in the number of home owners who have received at least one or more foreclosure notices! So no, he has NOT done a good job as president…far from it!

  • reason1984

    When Hillary Clinton first met the families of the deceased, she promised to take care of the filmmaker, and said nothing about the terrorists…why?

    You and I know that a terrorist attack conducted by al-Qaeda affiliated Jihadis on 9/11, did not square with the campaign theme of al-Qaeda having been ‘decimated,’ and ‘on the run,’ in the runup to the election.

  • contrariandy

    bin Laden’s not dead?

    Other than the fact that President Obama got bin Laden after others had failed, Foreign Policy was a minor part of his re-election campaign.

    Face the fact that President Obama was clearly legitimately elected and re-elected by the American People.

    And, he’s done a good job as President.

  • contrariandy

    no legitimate investigation showed any such nonsense

  • contrariandy

    so sayeth the tortured prose of Far Right fictionwriters

  • contrariandy

    Due to the fog of war, there was a great deal of conflicting information at the time, much of which has been cherry-picked and disstorted by the RighTeas. After the smoke cleared, all investigations proved that there was nothing to support the fictional scenarios and accusations.
    You choose to read only disstortions that support your prejudice against the administration; that’s cowardly.

  • contrariandy

    everything you said is nonsense

  • contrariandy

    I’m relying on the entirety of the information that came out of the many investigations showing that the anti-administration accusations and disstortions are fictions based on Far Right partisan politics, not based on the actual proven facts.

  • contrariandy

    proven to not be al Queda

  • contrariandy

    How about those killed on 9/11/01, and in Iraq, and by Katrina?

  • MarVista509

    Thanks

    1 thing missing from all these complex explanatin

    the Muslim brotherhood was determined to free the Bllnd Sheikh
    #2 top banana in Islamic ladder after Sheikh Qardawi
    he was the brain behind
    the W T C 1, supremo who concocted
    the operation from a Brooklyn mosque
    he is doing time-upstate N.Y
    IMHO unless proven otherwise
    was the background for the hit on the consulate
    all the other items- tricks of display
    something went wrong
    or got out of hand…who knows…

  • fatheromallley

    You read the emails. At the top is the word Benghazi! These emails WERE about Benghazi. You evidently drink in everything the media and administration thugs put out there. I hope you never breed..

  • fatheromallley

    workfaster needs to think more about the families of those killed.

  • Harvey Pearson

    The real issue is not about what may have contributed to the attack’s superficial motivations (say, well, the video), but the al Queda-connected terrorist group that actually carried it out, plus their deeper, more sinister, anti-U.S ,terrorist motivations.

  • workfaster

    So that’s it? That’s the scandal we’ve been led to believe is a big deal?

    It’s that someone was paying attention to “politics”? Really?

    LETS CRIMINALIZE POLITICS. I guess that’s the solution.

  • falling321

    And you know this….how? Benghazi blew Obama’s whole campaign out of the water! Obama’s whole re-election was based on his story that Bin Laden was dead and al Qaeda was on the run and Benghazi proved this to be a complete lie. I’d say that the knowledge that al Qaeda was not only NOT on the run, but was gaining power, might have had a very serious effect on the election!

  • falling321

    The video was first used by the administration and state department as an excuse for the Cairo riots which began just hours before the Benghazi terrorist attack. The administration had known about the planning of the Cairo riots and the involvement of al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood in that planning. The information about the video was released by our state department to religious leaders in Cairo just two days before the riots began. I believe this was in hopes of having a ready excuse for the riots that the administration knew were coming and knew that the root cause was this administrations intervention in middle eastern politics. At that point, the administration and the state department were merely looking for an explanation, other than Obama’s failed foreign policy, to give the American people for the riots. Hillary was up to her eyeballs in that one.
    Later, when the administration needed to give the media talking points to distract them from the reality of the al Qaeda terrorist attack in Benghazi, they just grabbed the same talking points about the video that they had planned to use concerning the Cairo riots…talking points they no longer need for Cairo, because Benghazi blew the Cairo riots off the front page!

  • falling321

    Wrong! We now know that the Cairo riots were NOT about the video! In fact, we knew that those riots were being planned for weeks before they began…and we knew that both the Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda were involved in the planning. The riots were actually in protest of the Obama administrations intervention in middle eastern politics and it was not until two days before the riots began that someone in our state department gave the information about the anti Mohammad video to the religious leaders in Cairo! No doubt that was the very first attempt by the administration to cover up the FACT that al Qaeda was not on the run, was in fact a very powerful group still causing a great deal of problems around the world!
    Apparently you and many other liberals prefer to forget that Obama and H. Clinton are responsible for their part in the riots that occurred AFTER they released their post Benghazi apology video/advertizement. A video that not only blamed the anti Mohammad internet video for Benghazi, but promised to bring the video maker to justice and apologized for American’s freedom of speech! It was after Obama and H. Clinton’s video was released that the real anti video riots began! Riots in which people died!

  • falling321

    And we now know that only two days before the Cairo riots began, someone from our state house gave the information about the anti Mohammad internet video to religious leaders who were involved in the planning of the Cairo riots! Those involved in the Cairo riots, which were being led by the Muslim Brotherhood and members of al Qaeda…and which we knew about at least 2 weeks before they occurred, paid no attention to the release of the information about the video, because they were already heavily invested in protesting the Obama administrations interventionist actions in the middle east! So the idea that the video was the cause of the Cairo riots was 100% a state department invention and was actually a preplanned attempt by the administration to cover up terrorists involvement in the riots. When just hours later, Benghazi blew up on them, it was a very simple matter to grab onto the video again and attempt to deflect attention away from the fact that terrorists were not only NOT on the run, but were strong enough to grab our ambassador, torture him and kill him and three other American citizens! And instead of showing deep gratitude towards our two Navy SEALS who saved more than 30 lives that night, they betrayed our military and left them there to die!

  • falling321

    They not only did not answer the 3AM call, we do not even know where they were when the call came in! The American people deserve answers and our military needs to know that something like this will NEVER be allowed to happen again! Meaning Hillary CANNOT become president!

  • falling321

    No one could have been prepared for 9/11 and we now know that while Bush offered federal aid BEFORE Katrina hit, that aid was turned down. We also know that Mayor Nagan was as corrupt as they come and fortunately is now sitting in jail where he belongs! No matter what the media told you, the deaths that occurred during Katrina should be laid at the feet of the governor and mayor of New Orleans, both of whom were far closer and far better prepared to take action, but did nothing! In fact…Nagan was all over the talk shows claiming that NO had withstood all previous hurricane and would do just fine in withstanding Katrina!
    I read the Rhodes emails and it is very clearly a cover up. Not necessarily of a crime, but of the involvement of al Qaeda terrorists in the torture and death of our ambassador. Obama was deep into an election where he had been daily claiming that al Qaeda was ‘on the run’ due to his strong foreign policy. Of course that was a lie and Benghazi proved that.

  • falling321

    So you’re telling us you bought into the administrations lies? Sorry, but most of us are far to intelligent not to recognize a cover up when we see one playing out right before our eyes! The information provided by Rice on those talk shows had NOTHING to do with reality on the ground. Nor did the lies Obama and H. Clinton told as late as two weeks after the Benghazi terrorist attack.

  • The Observer

    An excellent and erudite analysis of the events. I concur fully. Well done.

  • contrariandy

    I actually read what was in all 112 pages. There’s nothing there, and certainly nothing controversial in the Rhodes’ email; it just reproduced what the Intelligence community was willing to say at the time when they were investigating and pursuing the attackers.

    RighTeas are disshonestly cherry-picking and disstorting any bits and pieces they can spin into something that sounds sinister, but eventually, the facts showed that there are no Benghazi scandals other than those applying to the Republicans.

    Once the smoke cleared and the facts were investigated, it turns out that there were protests, the attack was not by al Queda and was not pre-planned

  • The Observer

    Funny thing is this was a fabrication…a CYA of the highest degree.

  • The Observer

    Who is playing partisan politics with these tragic deaths? Come on now, it is clear that the CinC and SecState had the real info within hours of the attack and together they forged the PR blitz to coverup their incompetence and inaction.

    That you are actually defending these actions is astounding and denialism at its best. Face it, they blew it. Neither of them answered the 3 AM call.

  • contrariandy

    Lots of conflicting reporting at the time, but after the smoke cleared, careful investigations have shown that there were protesters in Benghazi and that the attack was not al Queda and not pre-planned.

  • contrariandy

    it had no effect on the election.

  • contrariandy

    the undeniable fact is that there were worldwide protests about the video. the fact that there were worldwide protests about the video was the subject of the email, the subject of the questions to Ambassador Rice on the Sunday shows and the content of her answers.
    Nothing scandalous in any way.

  • contrariandy

    the worldwide protests against the video were about the video; and that’s exactly what the Rhodes email was about; there’s nothing untrue in the email

  • contrariandy

    funny thing is that what Rice said turned out to be true

  • contrariandy

    no crime, no cover-up, no scandal

    no scandal except Republicans cutting the Embassy Protections budgets, exposing our CIA outposts, undermining the FBI investigation, and disgracefully playing partisan politics with the tragic deaths of 4 Americans.

  • contrariandy

    like Bush was prepared for 9/11?
    like Bush was prepared for Katrina?

    either you didn’t read the Rhodes email, or you can’t read

  • contrariandy

    Read the Rhode’s email!. It’s about the worldwide protests spawned by the video, not about Benghazi. Read the transcripts of the Sunday shows; the questions and answers were mostly about safety following the worldwide protests, not about Benghazi There’s nothing scandalous there.

  • William J.

    What about TORTURE at Benghazi, why was the CIA operating a black site there when Obama claimed he shut them all down??

    Did the CIA torture at Benghazi, we know Obama left Extraordinary Rendition aka torture open, so maybe they have something to cover up and was Hillary Clinton involved. President Bill Clinton tortured 3 terrorists, how do we know Hillary and Obama are truely innocent when Obama’s executive order left overseas torture on the table???

    The Washington Post wrote that torture was a possibility and the White House has been silent so someone else should ask the questions, otherwise why would the WaPo suggest torture?

  • PartyOfLincoln

    The emails I read said otherwise! President Bush would have been ready and no one would have died!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    On President Bush’s watch they would still be alive!

  • JS

    LOL, you are clueless and not worth the time.

    So posting “QUOTES” from the emails of people in Obamas admin is posting what other people think, or something like that? LOL….

    I noticed YOU STILL have not answered ONE of my prevfious questions regarding the topic…………………………………………….

  • PartyOfLincoln

    Look people it’s book burning Ron trying to tell you what to read again!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    Then why was the subject “PREP CALL”? Rice’s appearances on the Sunday shows was to answer question about Benghazi, NOT to explain Arab outrage over a video and you know it!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    So is Obama’s, Period!
    Oh wait lets not forget “I did not have sexual relations with that women”!
    A Democrat calling a Republican a liar is the best example I’ve ever seen of the Pot calling the Kettle black!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    You lie like Obama. The CIA was certain the next morning. This was three days later on the 14th……Hello Mc.Fly!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    The subject of the email was “PREP CALL”! Prep for what seems to be the problem you are having old man! It was to prep her for the Sunday shows she was going to be on the next morning to answer question about Benghazi! Can’t you connect the dots old man? Her going on Sunday News outlets was NOT to discus the Videos affect on the Muslim world. It was to explain why the Administration on the anniversary of 9-11 was not prepared for the assault! President Bush would have been and always was. This is what you get when you vote a self admitted lazy person as President. I knew he was a tool for the Democratic party when he said there are 57 states in the Union. See what affirmative action gets you?

  • beowolfe

    Well, I tried to open a discussion with you on what you think, but you insisted on posting what other people think.

  • PartyOfLincoln

    Great point! Can you say COVERUP?

  • PartyOfLincoln

    Enjoy your judgement day old man! good luck with that supporting the killing of the unborn thing! How does a liberal like you live with yourself when the President you voted for kills Americans without due process? Drone strikes….look it up!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    Jay Carney is that you?

  • PartyOfLincoln

    All we have to do is read the emails! It’s vary clear they were covering for the President who falsely claimed victory over the war on terror two weeks before an election! So how many lies is it now for Obama, period? Telling lies is all your party is good at. Remember “I did not have sexual relations with that women”? I trust the right, God fearing, country loving, slave freeing GOP any day over the filth and lies your party tells!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    And you should not use Saturday Night Live as a News source Ron!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    You statements about Fox news, the number one news outlet in America, show that you are a partisan closed minded Obama tool! If liberals like you had their way they would burn Fox news down. The Germans started that way by burning books they didn’t agree with! You should open you mind and read both sides like most of us do. Don’t let Democrats tell you what you should and shouldn’t read!

  • PartyOfLincoln

    Given that the Administration was told shortly after the attacks that there was no protest why do you believe the following statement is not a “smoking gun”? The document lists as a “Goal”: “To underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”

  • JS

    So YOU have not read all the emails and you are questioning and coming to your conclusion that there is no smoking gun, INTERESTING. Your only participations in this “discussion” is that you see “no smoking gun” only after reading 50 of emails. Which 50 did you conclude there is no smoking gun?

    Really nothing to this little gem, or have you not read that particular email yet?

    “In the email, Ben Rhodes lists as a “goal” the White House desire “To
    ​underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a
    broader failure or policy.”

    Nothing here to see, or you choose not to see it? The WH knows it themselves and any reasonable person can see that Obamas foreign policy has been a failure and emboldened our enemies, from the day he took that apology tour around the world.

    And it takes more than just the emails to understand the facts of what happened. Even some of the MSM see the problem, but not beowolfe.

    Research the list of people that the Rhodes email was sent to and get back to us. You obviously have no idea how to research and form an opinion based on ALL the facts up to this point. The emails just uncovered what most of us knew all along, they were telling lies for political purposes. You do know that they reclassified other emails as “classified” after getting the FOIA requests? There are 7 WH emails (that they know about) about how to handle the story that FOX News broke, that are now classified.

    But no “smoking gun” to be found by beowolfe?

    And it will take years to give up the IRS documents that were requested by Congress and FOIA request, YEARS. Most transparent admin ever?

    Remember, the Dems thought they were going to rule the US for the next “40 years” and were not worried about any oversight, they were in control of the oversight. But 2010 put them in a panic and they have been covering up ever since.

  • JS

    Discuss? It was all one way, you did not discuss anything ,but yet you kept asking for others to answer your question. And I asked you point blank questions with still no answers. That is not a discussion.

  • beowolfe

    Now that’s the hard part. Getting simple clear answers from ANY politician. As for your analysis, have you ever considered journalism?

  • Phil in AZ

    it doesn’t or shouldn’t cost 100’s of millions to get to an answer – dump the email servers, pull the handwritten notes and playback the tapes. Spend a few weeks reconstructing the timeline and you will have your answers. But I think you will find that the video excuse came first from the State Department and came very early in the assault. It was clear that the video excuse was teed up as part of what happened in Cairo and getting information is going to take the courts to pry loose from the players involved

  • Phil in AZ

    Thanks – like beauty it may be in the eye of the beholder but let’s see if we can simply get a clear answer – I truly dislike all politicians as their motivations are generally all about them and never about the country. I think we are entitled, as citizens, to an honest and open answer. if i am not owed it, then the families of those who died are entitled to know

  • beowolfe

    I have not read all 112 pages. I think I’m around page 50. And what I had seen so far indicated there was no ‘smoking gun’. And you’re right. A politician worth his/her salt wouldn’t leave one to be found. But history has shown us a lot of them were not worth their salt.

  • beowolfe

    I must tip my hat to you. That is the best analysis of the emails I’ve yet to read. You have some conclusions that I don’t agree with, but for the most part, I agree with your take.

  • Phil in AZ

    I have answered you twice with a very detailed response to the emails – and given you my conclusion. Please respond

  • Phil in AZ

    I have read all 112 pages – there is only one real good smoking gun (Rhodes email) but many many many dots that easily connect and show the momentum around the cover up as it took hold. For your reading pleasure I will cite my analysis. I am glad to have your rebutle but I doubt you do:

    There is more there than just a few emails when you pull the raw FOIA response. The redactions are heavy, and they start on the 14th and not the 11th or 12th which is important and I am sure in due time we will get those early ones too. Here you go – and you have to start with the premise, as I believe, that the Cairo action was not inspired by the video. It was the start of a bad chain of events related to militant Islam, the failure of our policy in Egypt the “holy day” for militants (9/11) and the fact that since Cairo wasn’t a rock throwing “skirmish” it DIDNT fit the campaign narrative of “decimated and on the run”

    Now go from breaching the walls and raising a black flag (Cairo) on the news (daylight) for the entire world to see and leap to a murdered ambassador and you MUST have a scapegoat, otherwise it’s your problem as POTUS.

    With that backdrop you jump ahead nearly three days into damage control with PR PEOPLE, not security experts and you get the following:

    Red flag number 1: Ben Rhodes email. It is important to see the email that was a response to. That is not included. It clearly is SPIN and not about informing the American public of what has been determined to date.

    Red flag number 2 Pelofsky email where he identifies that mike Morell had to heavily edit the talking points because the version they got would encourage the reader to infer that the CIA had warned of a specific attack. (My comment now – how do you get something with that narrative and completely turn it around because that first narrative was deemed “not good”? Not good is an easy description for an unflattering truth, if it was untrue or simply not accurate or had no basis in fact, those are the words that should have appeared. CLearly there is something “here”

    Red flag number 3 recon email. Saturday the talking points are not yet “ready” and they are coming from the state department (jake works for Hillary but has since been promoted to work for Biden). Why aren’t they coming from the military or CIA? It is clear this is no longer a truth or fact finding exercise, all spin based on the junior staffers involved on Saturday

    Red flag number 4 Morell email at 11:08 am Saturday – he has boiled it down to 3 talking points. He knows at this time (4 days later) that is was not a spontaneous protest (paneta testimony is clear it was known and discussed much earlier than the 4th day)

    Red flag number 5 all the redacted emails in response to foxes news story on September 27th that year knew within 24 hours. The funny thing is the redacted reason codes are B5 (client attorney privilege / deliberative process) or B6 (mostly B6) which is PERSONAL PRIVACY INFORMATION. It has nothing to do with national security. If fox is so wrong, why the pages and pages of redacted emails? If there is nothing to hide, why hide it. I will assume B6, that this is embarrassing stuff because now its used for entire paragraphs, previously? Only to hide email addresses. Kind of strange huh?

    Red flag number 6 email from Alex mcphillips DURING THE ATTACK it is time stamped on the 11th at 5:46 est – which would be 11:46 pm in Benghazi. He states its a mob protesting the film. We know its a LIE and it was never misinformation created in real time as events occurred. There were no witness statements within the first two hours. This itself may have been a simple “connect it to Cairo” because we need how to explain CAIRO and this video is a damn good excuse.

    Red flag number 7 Eric pedrofsky email one hour later – believes Sean smith is dead, Stevens is missing and that it took the CIA (annex colleagues) a bit of time to secure it.

    Red flag number 8 – Clinton statement on video as cause. Before then annex is attacked she takes to the air to deplore the video. No knowledge of this what so ever but it the official storyline for Cairo and at this point she has made it clear it is the story line for this event.

    Red flag number 9 Alex mcphillips email to Susan rice at 6:17 pm est highlighting a CNN reporter on the ground stating ansar al sharia as the aggressor. They are a known al Qaeda affiliated terrorist group.

    Red flag number 10. Susan rice and her colleagues do not know by 6 am the next morning who was killed or injured. By this time everyone had been evacuated for several hours. All 4 bodies had been retrieved and were already out of Libya by then according to the official timeline. Or maybe they weren’t. I will chalk it up to a delay though why she should wait several hours to be told is beyond me

    Red flag number 11 the narrative from Payton on the morning of the 12th. This is important. She makes comments that definitely get dialed back in the coming days and it is very very detailed. The word extremists are used, the video is never mentioned. She is told it was a COMPLEX attack. They KNEW. On the morning of the 12th Obama is asked about the actual group claiming the attack, it’s obvious it’s not a spontaneous mob at this point, but mo one runs with it (liberal media)

    Red flag number 12 Alex mcphillips email of the 12th recounting to Susan rice tweets fromlibya about the “terrorists”.

    Red flag number 13 Alex mcphillips email on the 13th outlining the French press story that US officials believe it was terrorism related to the September 11th anniversary (Susan rice now KNOWS this is not possible but probable)

    Red flag number 14 – reading the Sunday transcripts. The hosts all knew this wasn’t spontaneous but she stuck with the narrative. She simply should have said, its possible, but we don’t know. Sticking to the conspiracy to spin this favorably for the president and Hillary is the cover up.

    There is no SMOKING GUN – politicians are generally too smart for that, plus they have way too much privilege to redact. But there is clearly a pattern to deny the experts and evidence and to spin this for political purposes. Clear as day. I hope the non redacted material under subpoena is even clearer. But I will tell you this, I think the calculus in this is Hillary, she drives the video story.

    Enjoy the review and love to hear your thoughts. For me I trust No politician to put the truth above their own selfish needs so read these with skepticism and its easy to see a group focused on protecting the administration.

  • beowolfe

    LOL! So you think someone who wishes to discuss what YOU think is a troll. Interesting. I’ve heard the spin from the administration and from media. I know what they think and I don’t need anyone to repeat it. I wanted to know what YOU think.

  • beowolfe

    Great! What’s your take on them?

  • Phil in AZ

    I read it all and I want you to go through each of my assessments and highlight where I have it wrong:

    There are more there than just a few emails when you pull the raw FOIA response. The redactions are heavy, and they start on the 14th and not the 11th or 12th which is important and I am sure in due time we will get those too. Here you go – and you have to start with the premise, as I believe, that the Cairo action was not inspired by the video. It was the start of a bad chain of events related to militant Islam, the failure of our policy in Egypt the “holy day” for militants (9/11) and the fact that since Cairo wasn’t a rock throwing “skirmish” it DIDNT fit the campaign narrative of “decimated and on the run”. The video was a minor story in the region on the 9th.

    Now go from breaching the walls and raising a black flag (Cairo) on the news (daylight) for the entire world to see and leap to a murdered ambassador and you MUST have a scapegoat, otherwise it’s your problem as POTUS.

    With that backdrop you jump ahead nearly three days into damage control with PR PEOPLE, not security experts and you get the following:

    Red flag number 1: Ben Rhodes email. It is important to see the email that was a response to. That is not included. It clearly is SPIN and not about informing the American public of what has been determined to date.

    Red flag number 2 Pelofsky email where he identifies that mike Morell had to heavily edit the talking points because the version they got would encourage the reader to infer that the CIA had warned of a specific attack. (My comment now – how do you get something with that narrative and completely turn it around because that first narrative was deemed “not good”? Not good is an easy description for an unflattering truth, if it was untrue or simply not accurate or had no basis in fact, those are the words that should have appeared. CLearly there is something “here”

    Red flag number 3 recon email. Saturday the talking points are not yet “ready” and they are coming from the state department (jake works for Hillary but has since been promoted to work for Biden). Why aren’t they coming from the military or CIA? It is clear this is no longer a truth or fact finding exercise, all spin based on the junior staffers involved on Saturday

    Red flag number 4 Morell email at 11:08 am Saturday – he has boiled it down to 3 talking points. He knows at this time (4 days later) that is was not a spontaneous protest (paneta testimony is clear it was known and discussed much earlier than the 4th day)

    Red flag number 5 all the redacted emails in response to foxes news story on September 27th that year knew within 24 hours. The funny thing is the redacted reason codes are B5 (client attorney privilege / deliberative process) or B6 (mostly B6) which is PERSONAL PRIVACY INFORMATION. It has nothing to do with national security. If fox is so wrong, why the pages and pages of redacted emails? If there is nothing to hide, why hide it. I will assume B6, that this is embarrassing stuff because now its used for entire paragraphs, previously? Only to hide email addresses. Kind of strange huh?

    Red flag number 6 email from Alex mcphillips DURING THE ATTACK it is time stamped on the 11th at 5:46 est – which would be 11:46 pm in Benghazi. He states its a mob protesting the film. We know its a LIE and it was never misinformation created in real time as events occurred. There were no witness statements within the first two hours. This itself may have been a simple “connect it to Cairo” because we need how to explain CAIRO and this video is a damn good excuse.

    Red flag number 7 Eric pedrofsky email one hour later – believes Sean smith is dead, Stevens is missing and that it took the CIA (annex colleagues) a bit of time to secure it.

    Red flag number 8 – Clinton statement on video as cause. Before then annex is attacked she takes to the air to deplore the video. No knowledge of this what so ever but it the official storyline for Cairo and at this point she has made it clear it is the story line for this event.

    Red flag number 9 Alex mcphillips email to Susan rice at 6:17 pm est highlighting a CNN reporter on the ground stating ansar al sharia as the aggressor. They are a known al Qaeda affiliated terrorist group.

    Red flag number 10. Susan rice and her colleagues do not know by 6 am the next morning who was killed or injured. By this time everyone had been evacuated for several hours. All 4 bodies had been retrieved and were already out of Libya by then according to the official timeline. Or maybe they weren’t. I will chalk it up to a delay though why she should wait several hours to be told is beyond me

    Red flag number 11 the narrative from Payton on the morning of the 12th. This is important. She makes comments that definitely get dialed back in the coming days and it is very very detailed. The word extremists are used, the video is never mentioned. She is told it was a COMPLEX attack. They KNEW. On the morning of the 12th Obama is asked about the actual group claiming the attack, it’s obvious it’s not a spontaneous mob at this point, but mo one runs with it (liberal media)

    Red flag number 12 Alex mcphillips email of the 12th recounting to Susan rice tweets fromlibya about the “terrorists”.

    Red flag number 13 Alex mcphillips email on the 13th outlining the French press story that US officials believe it was terrorism related to the September 11th anniversary (Susan rice now KNOWS this is not possible but probable)

    Red flag number 14 – reading the Sunday transcripts. The hosts all knew this wasn’t spontaneous but she stuck with the narrative. She simply should have said, its possible, but we don’t know. Sticking to the conspiracy to spin this favorably for the president and Hillary is the cover up.

    There is no SMOKING GUN – politicians are generally too smart for that, plus they have way too much privilege to redact. But there is clearly a pattern to deny the experts and evidence and to spin this for political purposes. Clear as day. I hope the non redacted material under subpoena is even clearer. But I will tell you this, I think the calculus in this is Hillary, she drives the video story.

    Enjoy the review and love to hear your thoughts. For me I trust No politician to put the truth above their own selfish needs so read these with skepticism and its easy to see a group focused on protecting the administration.

  • Phil in AZ

    Yes awaiting your detailed response

  • Phil in AZ

    I have read all 112 pages – there is only one real good smoking gun (Rhodes email) but many many many dots that easily connect and show the momentum around the cover up as it took hold. For your reading pleasure I will cite my analysis. I am glad to have your rebutle but I doubt you do:

    There is more there than just a few emails when you pull the raw FOIA response. The redactions are heavy, and they start on the 14th and not the 11th or 12th which is important and I am sure in due time we will get those early ones too. Here you go – and you have to start with the premise, as I believe, that the Cairo action was not inspired by the video. It was the start of a bad chain of events related to militant Islam, the failure of our policy in Egypt the “holy day” for militants (9/11) and the fact that since Cairo wasn’t a rock throwing “skirmish” it DIDNT fit the campaign narrative of “decimated and on the run”

    Now go from breaching the walls and raising a black flag (Cairo) on the news (daylight) for the entire world to see and leap to a murdered ambassador and you MUST have a scapegoat, otherwise it’s your problem as POTUS.

    With that backdrop you jump ahead nearly three days into damage control with PR PEOPLE, not security experts and you get the following:

    Red flag number 1: Ben Rhodes email. It is important to see the email that was a response to. That is not included. It clearly is SPIN and not about informing the American public of what has been determined to date.

    Red flag number 2 Pelofsky email where he identifies that mike Morell had to heavily edit the talking points because the version they got would encourage the reader to infer that the CIA had warned of a specific attack. (My comment now – how do you get something with that narrative and completely turn it around because that first narrative was deemed “not good”? Not good is an easy description for an unflattering truth, if it was untrue or simply not accurate or had no basis in fact, those are the words that should have appeared. CLearly there is something “here”

    Red flag number 3 recon email. Saturday the talking points are not yet “ready” and they are coming from the state department (jake works for Hillary but has since been promoted to work for Biden). Why aren’t they coming from the military or CIA? It is clear this is no longer a truth or fact finding exercise, all spin based on the junior staffers involved on Saturday

    Red flag number 4 Morell email at 11:08 am Saturday – he has boiled it down to 3 talking points. He knows at this time (4 days later) that is was not a spontaneous protest (paneta testimony is clear it was known and discussed much earlier than the 4th day)

    Red flag number 5 all the redacted emails in response to foxes news story on September 27th that year knew within 24 hours. The funny thing is the redacted reason codes are B5 (client attorney privilege / deliberative process) or B6 (mostly B6) which is PERSONAL PRIVACY INFORMATION. It has nothing to do with national security. If fox is so wrong, why the pages and pages of redacted emails? If there is nothing to hide, why hide it. I will assume B6, that this is embarrassing stuff because now its used for entire paragraphs, previously? Only to hide email addresses. Kind of strange huh?

    Red flag number 6 email from Alex mcphillips DURING THE ATTACK it is time stamped on the 11th at 5:46 est – which would be 11:46 pm in Benghazi. He states its a mob protesting the film. We know its a LIE and it was never misinformation created in real time as events occurred. There were no witness statements within the first two hours. This itself may have been a simple “connect it to Cairo” because we need how to explain CAIRO and this video is a damn good excuse.

    Red flag number 7 Eric pedrofsky email one hour later – believes Sean smith is dead, Stevens is missing and that it took the CIA (annex colleagues) a bit of time to secure it.

    Red flag number 8 – Clinton statement on video as cause. Before then annex is attacked she takes to the air to deplore the video. No knowledge of this what so ever but it the official storyline for Cairo and at this point she has made it clear it is the story line for this event.

    Red flag number 9 Alex mcphillips email to Susan rice at 6:17 pm est highlighting a CNN reporter on the ground stating ansar al sharia as the aggressor. They are a known al Qaeda affiliated terrorist group.

    Red flag number 10. Susan rice and her colleagues do not know by 6 am the next morning who was killed or injured. By this time everyone had been evacuated for several hours. All 4 bodies had been retrieved and were already out of Libya by then according to the official timeline. Or maybe they weren’t. I will chalk it up to a delay though why she should wait several hours to be told is beyond me

    Red flag number 11 the narrative from Payton on the morning of the 12th. This is important. She makes comments that definitely get dialed back in the coming days and it is very very detailed. The word extremists are used, the video is never mentioned. She is told it was a COMPLEX attack. They KNEW. On the morning of the 12th Obama is asked about the actual group claiming the attack, it’s obvious it’s not a spontaneous mob at this point, but mo one runs with it (liberal media)

    Red flag number 12 Alex mcphillips email of the 12th recounting to Susan rice tweets fromlibya about the “terrorists”.

    Red flag number 13 Alex mcphillips email on the 13th outlining the French press story that US officials believe it was terrorism related to the September 11th anniversary (Susan rice now KNOWS this is not possible but probable)

    Red flag number 14 – reading the Sunday transcripts. The hosts all knew this wasn’t spontaneous but she stuck with the narrative. She simply should have said, its possible, but we don’t know. Sticking to the conspiracy to spin this favorably for the president and Hillary is the cover up.

    There is no SMOKING GUN – politicians are generally too smart for that, plus they have way too much privilege to redact. But there is clearly a pattern to deny the experts and evidence and to spin this for political purposes. Clear as day. I hope the non redacted material under subpoena is even clearer. But I will tell you this, I think the calculus in this is Hillary, she drives the video story.

    Enjoy the review and love to hear your thoughts. For me I trust No politician to put the truth above their own selfish needs so read these with skepticism and its easy to see a group focused on protecting the administration.

  • Phil in AZ

    The video had been online for months and we know now that the NSA intercepted a call from the attackers after the fight to al Qaeda leadership and we know from witnesses THAT NIGHT that there were NO protests. In fact CNN tweeted during the first two hours on the ground as a witness that it was not a protest. The French press maintained from day 1 the same thing. It is easy to understand why the presidents people did what they did. He certainly would have lost the election if it were understood that the terrorists were not defeated and on the run. Time to lie – don’t worry the liberal media will protect us. Good for Boehner – I hope people are indicted.

  • Phil in AZ

    It’s not criminal to lie about being inept at your job to try and win an election. It is reprehensible when you are a sitting president and your Secretary of State has already picked out curtains for the January 2017 remodel of the whitehouse. These two people shouldn’t serve another day representing the people. Resign or impeach him and Hillary might as well stay retired.

  • Robert Steed

    Not channel . . . he is at one with the Nixon . . .

  • sickofitall?

    lol – are trying to channel Nixon?

  • FaciaBrut

    All this proves is that the GOP can do nothing constructive except play to its base, which lives for this crap. Get it through your thick skulls, there is no cover-up because there is no crime.

  • JS

    If you can’t answer that from my post you are just being a troll. Obviously you want everyone to answer and waste time with a troll.

    Good day

  • reason1984

    75% of all US combat deaths in Afghanistan have occurred on Obama’s watch.

    There are many in the international community who would like to see Obama stand trial for war crimes over his drone program.

    There are many in Mexico who would like to see someone, anyone, stand trial for facilitating the murder of over 200 of their fellow citizens, resulting from the illegal delivery of weapons across their border.

    Or Brian Terry?!!

  • beowolfe

    Have you read the emails?

  • JS

    I posted quotes of what the admin deliberately put out as their conclusion by Susan Rice and even Obama and Clinton weeks after, that it was a video that sparked the “protest/attack”. H Clinton went on Al-jazeera in a taxpayer funded PR video to apologize to the Muslim world for the video, EVEN when her own State Dept knew within hours and some accounts, within minutes, that it was a terrorist attack. Panetta testified that he knew it was a terrorist act minutes after the attack. Brig Gen Lovell testified that they knew it was a terrorist act right away. Tommy Vietor, former NSC Spokesman said that Obama was never in the situation room. I have read more up on this than you have I bet, so do some more homework and get back to me.

    Since when are actual “quotes” from the emails “talking heads” opinions, as you are trying to claim? The “talking heads” are QUOTES from Obama administration officials own words……………………………………

    Now, answer my questions please.

    Where was H CLinton while her people were being attacked/killed on the anniversary of 9/11? Where was Obama? We have positive proof he was not in the situation room.

    Where does the buck stop in the Obama administration? Benghazi, IRS targeting, Fast and Furious, EPA, IRS (that we know of) using personal emails to communicate with Progressive activist operatives to skirt Govt communications laws, and on and on? How does Obama not know ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF IT? If not, who is running the country?

    If you cannot figure out that what they were trying to do was to purposely mislead the American people and cover up their incompetence, or worse, cover up non Congressionally sanctioned covert activities in an election year. I have nothing else for you.

  • beowolfe

    I didn’t ask you what any talking head thought. I asked what YOU thought after reading the emails? Unless you haven’t read them.

  • Mark_Melrose

    Mother Jones, much? Hack.

  • Mark_Melrose

    To be fair to your perspective, I reviewed Iran Contra. No wonder you don’t mention. After story broke Reagan sent people before Congress, sent in most documents requested. Watergate is much more like Benghazi. Mostly because people like you think by playing cutesy with words people taking this seriously will be deterred. They won’t.

  • Mark_Melrose

    It’s usually not the crime, but the cover-up. With Benghazi it looks like BOTH. Media and lefty Stonewalls are crumbling.

  • kittycreek

    Good job making Stuff up. Your hate driven dishonesty is noted.

  • Ron Tall

    Stop buying all the garbage you are fed, wingtip.

    I mean wow. lol.

  • reason1984

    Yep, it was all a big mistake.

  • drlax15m

    It was politicized the moment they decided to flat out lie to the American people of our alleged free country. Stop trolling. Fascism is obsolete. False partisanship is over.

  • mumzieistired

    To put it as simply and clearly as possible: The relevance is that he is the President of the United States of America.

    And as president, he is responsible for how America responds to attacks on Americans. In particular, as president, he is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces: forces that might have been used had he been available in the situation room to command them.

    But he wasn’t there: he wasn’t there to command them or to do or decide anything else about the situation. He was AWOL.

    So, where was he?

    Or, as young Tommy Vietor would put it: Dude, where was my president?

  • Erudite Mavin

    “Whatever happened to conflict of interests? Or morals? Or integrity”
    They are Democrats along with no meaning of the above words.

  • Will Rogers

    Thank You Judicial Watch for going what the media and Congress should be doing.
    I hope that everyone would support them and help them keep this going so we can get the truth.

  • sputnik1

    That the truth is finally coming, slowly but surely and they know it. The convening of a Special Committee is sending them into panic mode. I’m hoping that Boehner will have the sense enough to appoint Trey Gowdy to head it.

  • sputnik1

    He wasn’t going to risk hurting any of his Muslim Brotherhood buddies. Better to let them kill 4 Amercians and try to cover it up.

  • sputnik1

    Yea, and we, the American taxpayer paid for it.

  • sputnik1

    Quite incestuous if you ask me. Whatever happened to conflict of interests? Or morals? Or integrity for that matter. After seeing that flippant, arrogant, little puke Tommy Veitors response to Brett Baier I was appalled at the disgusting lack of respect or decorum shown by Obama and Co. He seems to surround himself with incompetent fools. Kathleen Sebelius comes to mind.

  • sputnik1

    You are an idiotic bully. Typical Libtard that resorts to name calling when confronted with the truth. This recent development and convening of a Special Committee must be really panicking you. You and your ilk seem to be coming out of the woodwork to try to defend your feckless leader and his filthy Administration. Good luck with that. The truth will win out and I’m hoping that justice will prevail.

  • JS

    Judicial watch is doing what your Progressive media are not doing as part of their duty to America, being the watchdogs of the govt.

    Go cry watching the select committee hearings on the shameful actions of Obama and H Clinton while Americans died. And then the following cover up.

    From the email since you are incapable of understanding plain English in context. “THE WHITE HOUSE DESIRE”

    “In the email, Ben Rhodes lists as a “goal” the White House desire “To
    ​underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a
    broader failure or policy.” ”

    http://www.sharylattkisson(dot)com/new-benghazi-docs-april-29–2014.html

    Pretty cut and dry for the average American to understand, well accept a few of you Progs on here.

  • JS

    Yep cover up of the cover up of incompetence.

    “Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” Rice told me this morning on “This Week.”

    “In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated,” Rice said, referring to protests in Egypt Tuesdayover a film that depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a fraud. Protesters in Cairo breached the walls of the U.S. Embassy, tearing apart an American flag.

    “We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to – or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo,” Rice said. “And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons… And it then evolved from there.”

    http://abcnews.go(dot)com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated/

  • Jen Price

    You’re bringing up wars that happened 50 – 75 years ago… Living in the past seems to be a recurring theme with your kind. It seems you also like to insult people you don’t know who have a different point of view or try to speak up when lies are used to further your agenda.

    I’m talking about present day parties, not past ones. They have both changed drastically since the 70’s.

    Very sad and angry responses. I feel sorry for you and others like you.

    I’m more awake and aware than poor sheep like you will ever be because I know how to research for myself and don’t believe everything I’m told.
    You need to stop letting yourself be spoon fed the poisonous right wing pablum you’ve been subsisting on

  • way2go

    112 pages of numerous blank and redacted conversations, condolences on the deaths of U.S. personnel at the Benghazi compound from world leaders, TV interviews with Susan Rice, lots of speculation about the Jerry Jones anti-Muslim video and disjointed references to demonstrations in Cairo, Egypt which connected to the attacks on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

    None of the 112 pages of information can be construed as a smoking gun other than in the propaganda-filled nonsense spewing out of Fox News and Judicial Witch, an extremist right-wing echo chamber which spent countless tiresome attacks against the Clinton administration in their Travelgate snoop-fest.

    Judicial Witch has proven themselves to be a laughing stock and few people outside of the yammering right-wing and their Beenghonzi obsession take them seriously. Their entire raison d’être d’etre is hatred. Understandably, that is why they are Republicans.

  • Lestatdelc

    Virtual everything in that graphic is false. Well done (golf clap).

  • TBear

    Sirrah, who said Hillary “forced T[sic]hat idiot to commit bank fraud”? I can’t find that post. Now be a good “snark” and let us know who said that, won’t you. Waiting. . .

    ¤§ TBear §¤

  • JoeKirkup

    Ron,
    Let’s cut to the chase. Show me a shining example of successful communism. I’ll wait.
    Joe

  • Gatortrapper

    I downloaded and read the entire release of documents numbnut.

  • Gatortrapper

    Seems to me that he is supplementing their stories with his own critical analysis and application of the smell test to the sources to assign weight to them….just like most of us do. We’re capable of being critical thinkers who use our education and experience to make sound decisions…you might consider trying it.

  • Gatortrapper

    I want to see the Internet history of the residence and porn sites that night. I’m betting Obama was sparking a joint and jerking off alone.

  • Gatortrapper

    Believe what you want. Apparently your brain function and ability to relate to reality is limited.

  • Gatortrapper

    You’re delusional or just a plain ideologue who can’t bare the truth. You pose the statement “[n]ot sure what you base he ‘disappeared from view’ on” when the record is replete with the fact that he was last seen at a briefing in the late afternoon and beyond a telcon with the Israeli PM we know absolutely nothing except there was “purported” call with the Secy of State many hours later. You have to be either a fool or suffering from a brain injury to pose the question about his absence. That is further shown to be specious with your comments about “obvious” deferral to the CIA…. right, and your evidence of this is…… YOUR own speculation which continues as to the CIA’s reasoning for not initiating military action to defend the facilities. You’re falling over yourself trying to find some credible argument including the lie that he doesn’t comment “on secret CIA stuff” yet his Administration and he have used secret stuff like the source of the computer virus infecting the Iranian nuclear program and certain drone strikes which were never admitted although suspected as being a secret CIA program, uh…that’s until Obama released the information.

    CIA denies the video and now we have Rhodes email FOLLOWING UP ON THE CLINTON PRESS RELEASE that came out that night blaming the video. So the sworn denial by the CIA is trumped by the deceptive, incomplete and inaccurate unsworn statements of the Administration. Right….

    You’re an idiot not worthy of addressing more than once to point out your abject stupidity.

  • JS

    Wrong, Susan Rice, then SOS Clinton and then Obama said this was all because of a video even a week after 4 Americans died. It warms my heart that a fellow American thinks that telling lies to the American people about why 4 Americans died is funny. If there is nothing here why are you Progs so afraid of a select committee?

    “Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” Rice told me this morning on “This Week.”

    “In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated,” Rice said, referring to protests in Egypt Tuesdayover a film that depicts the Prophet Muhammad as a fraud. Protesters in Cairo breached the walls of the U.S. Embassy, tearing apart an American flag.

    “We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to – or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo,” Rice said. “And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons… And it then evolved from there.”

    http://abcnews.go(dot)com/blogs/politics/2012/09/ambassador-susan-rice-libya-attack-not-premeditated/
    ——————–
    “The email is entitled, “RE: PREP CALL with Susan, Saturday at 4:00 pm ET”
    and refers to White House involvement in preparing then-U.S.Ambassador
    to the U.N. Susan Rice for her upcoming appearance on Sunday television
    ​ network political talk shows.

    In the email, Ben Rhodes lists as a “goal” the White House desire “To
    ​underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a
    broader failure or policy.” ”

    http://www.sharylattkisson(dot)com/new-benghazi-docs-april-29–2014.html

  • Will

    Actually I feel for you Ron, to be honest.
    First because you seem unable or unwilling to comprehend that reasonable people can disagree. Second because you seem to demand that anyone that disagrees with what the White House states and what you agree must somehow be in a bubble, living desperately with the hope a conspiracy will be reviled. Finally because you seem to misunderstand clear definitions of words or just simply lack the military experience to understand the context in which those terms are used.
    The term “attack” and “demonstration” are not coequal in any language. One is clearly designed to cause harm to persons or property while the other is intended to communicate a dissatisfaction about a policy, event, individual or whatever have you, while not doing harm.
    There were “demonstrations” throughout the world, no question. Benghazi however was not one of them.
    Anyhow as I said before believe what you like as I will. We are clearly different. Understand however that my belief is rooted in the words and actions of Pres. Obama, Sec. Clinton, AFCOM Commander, NSA Spokesman (Mr. Vietor), White House Spokesman (Mr. Carney), Sec. Rice and Acting CIA Dir. Morrell. Someone isn’t being honest among the bunch. I care not whom but rather why.

  • anothercrawfish

    You mean like that little thing (D) Franklin D Roosevelt started in Germany & Japan that kiIIed 416,000+ Americans, or the little fight (D) Harry Truman started in Korea that kiIIed 35,500+, or maybe you’re just thinking about that small skirmish in Vietnam that (D) John F Kennedy started and was needlessly escalated by one of the most racist presidents in history (D) Lyndon B Johnson that killed 58,000+. Of course (D) LBJ didn’t serve as the grand poohba of the (D)emoKKKrat started KKK like (D) Robert Byrd. That (D)emokkkrat used the “N” word, as did (D) LBJ, like the Klansman he was and was praised the the (D)emokkkrat party for 50+ years! Please, turn around and stick your head back up your read end and go back to sleep.

  • TBear

    Oh, Mr. Shrugged, it’s “believe”, not beleive”. Keep trying, you might get there.

    ¤§ TBear §¤

  • JS

    Read and weep about being wrong.

    Fact: “In the email, Ben Rhodes lists as a “goal” the White House desire “To
    ​underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a
    broader failure or policy.”

    http://www.sharylattkisson(dot)com/new-benghazi-docs-april-29–2014.html

    You Progs are so sad that you were wrong all along defending the indefensible.

    Have a nice day and enjoy the select committee on the lies and deceit that you go along with.

  • Ron Tall

    lol. Too funny.

    Facts and reality….like the fact Rice was asked about the protests at other embassies…and that this was a reality you were unaware of.

    So unaware of said reality, you tried to claim that she had no need for talking points on the subject.

    Run along kid. Your tacit concession is noted.

  • ColoradoSunshine

    The spin of fact and reality slapping you in the face. Thanks for lively debate. Peace out.

  • Ron Tall

    Um….wow.

    Changing words in the initial talking points has very little to do with the fact the GOP immediately tried to politicize this tragedy. It is just your deflection from something you cannot allow yourself to see.

    The fact you and everyone else in your bubble are desperately grasping at everything you can, but never quite getting anything solid to support your conspiracy, should tell you to reconsider what you were quite obviously told to think.

    But alas. You will believe what you want. Facts and reality be damned.

  • Ron Tall

    It has been well established that help could not have arrived in time to save anyone. They knew this during the attack. Only in your conspiracy laden delusion is this not the case.

    In addition, you confused little ideologue, there were protests going on around the region. No one is still claiming the attack grew out of a protest. However, it is now known that the attack was in response to the same video.

    Turn off the theater leaving you so confused, not-einstein.

  • Ron Tall

    lol. You didn’t educate anyone kid.

    You just showed you do not understand this issue at all.

    Now you try to deflect AGAIN.

    You are ALL spin and sputter.

  • Will

    Sure Ron, it is that ole’ vast right wing conspiracy that politicized the narrative when the term “attack” was changed to “demonstrations” in the CIA’s first assessment. Oh, no, that’s right it was White House spokesman Tommy Vietor who said “maybe” it was him but “dude, that was like two years ago”. Right. OK.
    Again as a veteran who worked in a SCIF the story does not pass the smell test. It has been since Nov 2001 that I last touched a classified document and can tell you that to this day I can recall any document I touched that related to the death of a fellow American. Funny that Mr. Vietor does not have that type of recall but at this point, “what difference does it make”, I mean, “dude, that was like two years ago”, right.
    Anyhow, believe what you like and I will do the same.

  • JS

    Why can’t you speak in a respectful tone? You have proven that since you show little respect for others that are not Progs like yourself, you know it all.

    If you have not noticed your Liberal RAGS will not cover anything that shows the lies from Obama. Funny how some of the MSM are waking up to this scandal but you are still ranting about some 81 year old comments on race from his prostitute. Check out Sharyl Attkisson website and get back to us. So go back to Media Matters/Mother Jones and spread your BS there. We are not sheeple like yourself, so save your condescending breath.

  • ColoradoSunshine

    I am happy to be educating you through amusement. I enjoy making learning fun. Why do you feel it necessary to deflect from the actual facts in order to perpetuate the ideology you so passionately follow? Thanks for copying me on the transcripts. What do you think of the dopey dude from the White House who reported that the President wasn’t even in the situation room when the attacks on Benghazi were happening?

  • JS

    The people on the ground in Benghazi told them they needed help asap, they said they were being mortared and RPG’s were being used. THEY WENT WITH THE ANALYST INFORMATION FROM THE PEOPLE IN DC INSTEAD OF THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND IN BENGHAZI. The terrorist knew where ambassador Stevens safe room was. Obama never gave the go ahead to cross into Libyan airspace to attempt to save our own people. The Intelligence community have said time and time again that they were never given the chance to TRY to save them.

    That was some kind of protest Einstein.

  • Ron Tall

    It is too bad those that have been feeding the right wing this conspiracy don’t step back and consider four Americans were killed when they decided to politicize this national tragedy.

    Anywho. Think about it.

  • Ron Tall

    Just saying kid. Try using something other than right wing rags. It only highlights who feeds you, and it is why you are so confused.

    You get so much random garbage, it is no wonder you think the sky is falling.

  • Ron Tall

    lol. Too funny.

    Again, ideologue. Heavily qualified initial statements about an event that just happened only constitute a lie if you are desperate to believe in some conspiracy.

    I believe that Rice was going to discuss Benghazi, as well as other things that happened in the region. The transcripts clearly show she was asked about the other protests, wingtip. In fact, they were in the very first question on Meet the Press:

    “GREGORY: The images as you well know are jarring to Americans watching all of this play out this week, and we’ll share the map of all of this turmoil with our viewers to show the scale of it across not just the Arab world, but the entire Islamic world and flashpoints as well. In Egypt, of course, the protests outside the U.S. embassy there that Egyptian officials were slow to put down. This weekend in Pakistan, protests as well there. More anti-American rage. Also protests against the drone strikes. In Yemen, you also had arrests and some deaths outside of our U.S. embassy there. How much longer can Americans expect to see these troubling images and these protests go forward?”

    …..nbcnews.com/id/49051097/ns/meet_the_press-transcripts/t/september-benjamin-netanyahu-susan-rice-keith-ellison-peter-king-bob-woodward-jeffrey-goldberg-andrea-mitchell/#.U2QAaPldV8E

    You are getting angry because you are having such a hard time supporting what you were fed. I find it, and your persistent ignorance of this issue, very amusing.

  • JS

    They admitted that they used their personal emails for govt use, one person resigned on their own. You blindly listening to MSNBC is why you have no clue. It must be hard for you to be so wrong all the time.

  • Will

    Sure, Ron. I understand. It is only thanks to the internet that most of us can be exposed to such a magically powerful and brilliant thinker as you.
    You know it is too bad this is a right v. left thing when you step back and consider four American’s were killed but it is and of course those “little twits” couldn’t actually be concerned about the families and friends of the deceased.
    Anyhow, enjoy.

  • Ron Tall

    Obviously, you still have not read the email.

    For it is clear (very clear) that the email was addressing the protests at embassies in the region. Benghazi is not mentioned anywhere near those “goals”. In fact, the email barely contains any reference to Benghazi.

    You do not understand the issue. You are simply desperate to maintain the point of view you were fed. So you ignore reality.

    Enjoy your bubble kid.

  • ColoradoSunshine

    You need to step away from the bong and let your head clear. Why is it so hard for your tiny brain to grasp? NOTHIING was certain except that she was instructed to LIE! You want to believe she was going on the talk circuits to discuss the happenings in the region. That pal, is a conspiracy that you lapped up like a hungry dog. The topic of the day was Benghazi, you short sighted weasel and anyone with half a brain would admit that. Oh, but I forgot, you don’t have half a brain.

  • Ron Tall

    Blindly buying that “evidence” from right wing rags is likely why you are so confused and understand so little.

  • Ron Tall

    This email, that barely mentions Benghazi, does not refute the fact the CIA did come up with the talking points.

    Again. Heavily qualified initial statements that did not turn out to be 100% correct are only a “lie” in the bubble you live in. In the real world, outside of that bubble, they are initial statements no one with a brain expected to be 100% accurate.

    Your questions are desperate, as is your spin and sputter.

    You are not well versed in much, especially this issue.

  • Ron Tall

    You really are limited in your understanding of this issue.

    There did turn out to be spontaneous elements. It also turns out that the attack, while not stemming from a protest, was in response to the video. At the time Rice appeared on the talk shows, NOTHING was certain. The fact that we now know what actually happened was a combination of what she stated in her heavily qualified statements, is testimony to that uncertainty.

    You are still desperately trying to make the case that heavily qualified initial assessments that did not turn out to be 100% right are evidence of a cover up. They are not. You have simply bought a conspiracy.

    And you are having a difficult time supporting it….mostly because it is a conspiracy.

  • http://palestinename.com Beth

    Thank you!

  • ColoradoSunshine

    The “smoking gun” has little to do with what happened in Benghazi but puts the discussion directly in the White House. Before this email, the White House was placing the blame on the CIA for coming up with the talking points that Susan Rice used. She lied to the American people. Hillary Clinton spoke this lie directly into the ears of the family members. This must make you all warm an fuzzy inside. My questions may seem desperate, to you anyway. I am well versed on what has transpired and it is you who is so certain that the president didn’t sugar coat what happened so he could be elected for his second term.

  • ColoradoSunshine

    Another classic insult. Susan Rice said ““Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo,” How can something spontaneously happen when it was reported that there were no protests in the area? And, how can you dismiss the facts that by the time Susan Rice appeared on the talk shows it was fairly certain that what happened had NOTHING to do with the video? She also said ““We believe that folks in Benghazi, a small number of people came to the embassy to – or to the consulate, rather, to replicate the sort of challenge that was posed in Cairo,” Rice said. “And then as that unfolded, it seems to have been hijacked, let us say, by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons… And it then evolved from there.” Again, where is the evidence of the “small number of people” at the consulate had been hijacked by extremists?

  • reason1984

    Weak deflection. Please point out the factual misrepresentations in my post, as I have pointed out yours.

  • Jen Price

    OK, there’s no reasoning with you, you just want people to hate each other. The reason I corrected the quote was to show how words and actions are twisted to make the present administration look bad, all because the people elected a bi-racial president. Now your side doesn’t want a woman to be president so your side does everything in its power to manipulate and twist and beat dead horses.
    I’m done here because I realize you’re too hateful and afraid to see how deluded you are and how manipulated by FAUX ‘News’ type propaganda to see that they want us to turn on each other to take our attention away from everything they’re doing to screw ALL OF US!

  • Ron Tall

    I am not supporting my argument by calling people names. I am supporting my argument with things like the actual emails that do not say what the right wing keeps claiming.

    I do mock the right wing ignorance while doing so, however.

    You seem very confused.

  • Ron Tall

    Wow. You really know zero about this issue, huh?

    Whether there was a protest or not was not certain. Nothing was. I mean, how many times do I have to point that out?

    But pointing to a video that was responsible for protests at many other embassies around the region actually turned out to be true. We now know that the militants were motivated by the same video.

    Your desperate questions reflect how little you understand about this issue, and how desperate you are to maintain the conspiracies you were fed.

  • Phlancaster

    Not sure what do you base he “disappeared from view” on. Seems obvious that he deferred to CIA, which did not want military spotlighting its operation. It’s also obvious CIA believed it had (or would quickly have) the resources and ability to control the situation. This was a colossal CIA miscalculation & that’s also on Obama…WH is NOT going to admit that. When has POTUS ever commented on secret CIA stuff?

    Does it not make sense that initial intent was to cover CIA ops by blaming video? These e-mails only prove what we already know about WH exaggeration about video…It doesn’t explain why? The right media has instilled it was to cover Obama politically before election. Really? You believe it’s that simple? I see the right media as playing it’s audience as saps. Ultimately this is GOP media’s negative campaign preview…and that’s fine…But it won’t register to anyone besides aforementioned selective (Fox News) audience which is already voting for GOP candidate.

  • MarVista509

    who staged the Nakullah Nakullah movie excuse?
    who searched, found planted, featured this amateur movie
    in the talking points?

  • Will

    Why must you try and support your argument by calling people names and trying to diminish them? Do you think it helps calling people “little twits” or “kid”? If so, I actually feel bad for you. But we are all different.

  • snowcloud

    Can’t have a REAL journalist among the drive-bys, you know.

  • reason1984

    ‘Liberals didn’t start the unnecessary wars that have caused the rest of the world to hate the US.’

    Wrong on its face.

    Your response is a bit disjointed and disconnected. The war in Vietnam was brought to us by JFK and LBJ, Nixon brought the troops home.

    The Vietnam war remains deeply embedded in the psyche of those who grew up during the era, and those actually involved in its prosecution. Over 1 million war dead including 58,220 US military fatal casualties, is hardly to be dismissed as some war ‘that was nearly fifty years ago.’

    Agent Orange was introduced into Vietnam by JFK. Agent Orange continues to kill and disfigure to this day.

    Stop by the Vietnam War Memorial in DC, and tell visiting veterans, and their families and friends that the war started by progressive liberals is irrelevant because it was ‘nearly fifty years ago.’

    The troop withdrawal timetable in Iraq followed a Status of Force Agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and Bush, signed by Bush in 2008. Obama followed the SOFA timetable.

    As to the remainder of your regurgitation about ‘dead babies,’ ‘zygotes,’ and ‘fetuses,’ I was responding directly to your assertion that ‘liberals didn’t start unnecessary wars.’

    You made a point of correcting a misquote of Hillary Clinton in your response to ‘anothercrawfish’ above, yet you feel free to misquote my response with abandon…typical.

    You really should reread my original post.

  • ColoradoSunshine

    That’s the point, Ron! There wasn’t a protest in Benghazi. So why then, did Susan Rice feel it necessary to blame the video? Why did our POTUS shake the hands of the family members of the dead and them he would get to the bottom of this. Why hasn’t anyone been arrested for the crimes?

  • JS

    “Dude” What does this tell you?

    The document lists as a “Goal”: “To underscore that these protests are rooted in and Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”

    Then to add to it, this gem:

    “Thursday on Fox News “Special Report,” host Bret Baier grilled Tommy Vietor, the former NSC Spokesman at the time of the 2012 Benghazi terror attacks, about his role in changing the talking points that then U.N. ambassador Susan Rice used on the Sunday talk shows following the attacks. Baier used video clips of the tesimony of Former Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell and the US Africom Intelligence Director at the time Ret Air Force Brigadier General Robert Lovell to corner Vietor into admitting they got the “peaceful protest gone awry” “dead wrong”. When Baier asked Vietor if he changed the word “attack” in the talking points Vietor said “Dude, this is like two years ago” ”

    http://www.breitbart(dot)com/Breitbart-TV/2014/05/01/Dude-This-Is-Like-Two-Years-Ago-Bret-Baier-Grills-Former-NSC-Spokesman-On-Benghazi-Coverup

    When you watch this video what does it tell you?

    http://dailycaller(dot)com/2014/05/02/former-national-security-council-spokesman-tommy-vietor-on-benghazi-dude-it-was-like-two-years-ago/

  • InTheDark

    Pardon my sarcasm.

  • JS

    “Sen. David Vitter, R-La., revealed that he has found “widespread” use of banned, unofficial email accounts at the Environmental Protection Agency. At least two regional administrators used the unofficial email accounts, including the acting agency leader and one person resigning as the investigation gets underway.

    “Region 8 Administrator [James] Martin is likely resigning this week in part because of the open investigation about his use of a non-official email account to conduct official business,” Vitter, ranking member on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee (EPW), said in a statement today. The off-site email account “may have been an attempt to circumvent the Federal Records Act, the Freedom of Information Act, and Congressional oversight,” Vitter’s office explained.”

    http://washingtonexaminer (dot)com/vitter-another-epa-official-resigning-amid-probe-of-alias-email-accounts/article/2521910

    Lois Lerner IRS:

    “This despite the fact that she was using unofficial email accounts on the side, and had a central role in the debacle.”

    http://www.aim(dot)org/aim-column/as-irs-scandal-heats-up-media-look-the-other-way/

    Might want to expand your news sources if you have not heard of any of this. Do your own home work and you might enlighten yourself. start with Lisa Jackson aka “Richard Windsor”.

  • Ron Tall

    Obviously you haven’t or you would not have had to ask for a link to the email. And you wouldn’t have been so confused on what the email actually stated.

    Now you are spinning and sputtering.

    We know now that what happened in Benghazi was not related to protests in Benghazi. That was not certain initially. Nothing was certain, which is why every one statement Susan Rice made was heavily qualified.

    This new email shows nothing. It is barely mentions Benghazi.

  • beowolfe

    To my republican friends………when you read the emails, what do they say to you?

  • beowolfe

    What evidence do you have that there are any unofficial email accounts?

  • ColoradoSunshine

    I have read all of the State Department documents, email and all that were attached. Your confidence in stating that there is nothing of concern led me to believe that you might have been looking at a document that I’ve haven’t read before. Do you think the specifics of what happened in Benghazi was related to a protest?

  • Ron Tall

    How is an email that barely mentions Benghazi suspicious?

    Why didn’t your read the email before commenting?

  • Ron Tall

    A link to the email is in the article.

    Why are you talking about an issue you just admitted you did not research?

  • Ron Tall

    Your understanding comes from right wing blogs desperately trying to find some way to blame the President for the tragedy in Benghazi.

    The reason this “discourse” ends up in arguments over tiny details is because the right wing zombies continually deflect from one easily debunked talking point to the next. Or, like you just did, off to a bunch of other conspiracies bouncing around the conservative game of telephone.

    If you yourself would like to avoid looking like a foolish, spoon fed, right wing zombie, I would suggest turning off the political theater you seem to mistake for news. Try researching the issues to learn about them, not to reinforce what you and many others are desperate to believe. Then, you will be able to discuss an issue without having to deflect off to some other random criticism you were fed.

  • JoeKirkup

    Ron,
    In a general sense, do you approve of how the president handled the attack which occurred for whatever reason it did? My understanding is that he was informed of the attack early on, but never made contact with the situtation room for the rest of the night. An American abassador was missing and several of his people were dead on the ground yet he simply went to bed then to a fund raiser in the morning. Do you find that acceptable? In the same situation is this what you would have done?
    I have noticed the much of this discourse ends up in arguments over tiny details or the meaning of certain words. We often lose sight of the bigger picture. The big picture of Obama includes choosing not to enforce duly enacted laws in order to pander to Hispanics, hiding any and all of his personal history including the curious origin of his Connecticut Social Security number, targeting politcal enemies by using goverment agencys and telling outright lies about the healthcare bill. Is all that acceptable to you? Wouldn’t you prefer to spend your time on the net doing something other than constantly making yourself look foolish by defending the guy you voted for?
    Joe

  • ColoradoSunshine

    Please direct me to a link where the actual email is available to read. Thanks.

  • ColoradoSunshine

    Wow, starting off with an insult right off the bat, classic. You don’t think it’s just a bit suspicious that after all of the documents requested previously (many were redacted) that this one wasn’t released previously? Keeping in mind that the majority of the subject wasn’t pertaining to Benghazi as you so state. What would be the reasoning behind that if there wasn’t anything to worry about?

  • Freedom Squandered

    Nice try. The “likelihood” was the certainty that Sunday’s talking heads would want to know about the murder of our ambassador and 3 others in Benghazi. Now, you can argue as you do that it was about widespread protests and that the WH was addressing the protests but not Benghazi. But that is a truly remarkable and ridiculous assertion. From your viewpoint, you telling me I am making little sense is quite understandable.

    Have a nice day.

  • Curt Petersen

    Stories like this actually does more harm than good. Too spin it as if there is some smoking gun that they were trying to hide is disingenuous. Everything in those declassified document was already known. There is nothing new.

    My only true concern about this is that most people whole-heartedly believe that their party can do no wrong. Their whole reason for existing is to divide people into two factions. Fox News praises Republican while destroying Democrats, and MSNBC praises Democrats while destroying Republicans. Yet most people accept whatever their “team” needs to do in order to win. This is why Americans will never get on the same page and do what is right for the majority of us.

  • JS

    Great work JW.

    I have another question.

    Is anyone going after the emails of many of the Obama admins “personal” email contacts with partisan groups? I think the use of unofficial email accounts to go around the govt communications laws is very serious and needs to be exposed as well.

  • Ron Tall

    lol. Yet, you did respond. But not to the substance in the post. Not to the fact that the email doesn’t show what you were fed. Nope.

    Sorry you did not read the actual email kid. Perhaps it is time you consider turning off the theater you obviously mistake for news?

  • Ron Tall

    lol. You illogical little twits are something else.

    You get fed a bunch of garbage about an email that doesn’t really say what you were told. Then, when you are challenged with the actual email, you spin off onto some illogical tangent.

    It isn’t evidence of your spoon fed conspiracy kid.

  • Gatortrapper

    Another “anonymous troll” who writes behind the curtain. You’re not worth responding to beyond a fart in your general direction.

  • Gatortrapper

    It’s relevant because he “disappeared” from view during an ongoing attack on the American facility and it was known that one American was dead and the Ambassador missing. It’s relevant because he had to order military resources into action, no one else was so authorized. So it’s relevant, especially in light of the fact that we see that his whole foreign policy seems designed to permanently damage the United States for the foreseeable future.

  • bedfordfailed

    Oh, so that’s why the white house withheld evidence.

  • Gatortrapper

    Coward who posts lies and misrepresentations of fact= Atlasshruggedmyass.

  • Ron Tall

    Talk about spinning….

    The protests occurring at our embassies at the time were not just random civilian uprisings. They were widespread protests at many of our embassies.

    There was a likely hood that other topics besides the one you do not want me to mention would be discussed on the Sunday shows. Topics like the numerous protests at embassies in the region.

    In addition, the administration frequently produces talking points on issues. You are making very little sense.

  • Curt Petersen

    I don’t like either political party. They are both evil to me. I don’t believe in right vs. left. To me one is worse than the other. That’s the only choice we have because the vast majority are enslaved to a two party system.

  • Gatortrapper

    You’re entitled to your own opinion, no matter how ill informed or rationale, but you can’t “invent” facts. The merits of the invasion of Iraq are the subject of much debate. You can suggest that Bush and Cheney crafted a narrative that advanced their world view. Fine. That happens all the time. Yet the historical record suggests very strongly that most of your OWN f’ing Congressional representatives and Senators (Including Hilliary and a host of others) all supported the move against Hussein’s Iraq and indeed the U.S. apparently convinced the UN to support the move. That they were wrong about WMD’s depends on any number of interpretations of what they found, but the fact remains that Hussein had them at one time and boasted of having them up until the time of the invasion. You’re stupid and ignorant to deny those realities, but to be expected by a communist who subscribes to Rules for Radicals that holds that when confronted with facts you ignore them and harangue away on something else. You’re a fool.

    Pat Tillman? Really? You’re going to attribute the tragic friendly fire death and initial failure of the MILITARY authorities to disclose that to the President? Really? The absence of a rationale link to the Benghazi events just shows how desperate you are to find something, anything, to use to distract from the fact that Obama deliberately skewed the story of what he did when he got the fateful 2:00 a.m. telephone call: apparently he was jerking off in the residence and didn’t want to waste the Vaseline on his hand and ignored his job.

    You’re a fool friend. An absolute intellectual failure who cannot, apparently, master the Internet sufficiently to even post a picture of yourself, or choose to hide behind the cloak of anonymity, like all cowards do. I pity people like you even as I would turn the spade to bury your ilk.

  • Phlancaster

    Just curious how that is relevant to anything? GOP “media” has suggested conflicting “relevances.” One is Obama watched attack live (perhaps with popcorn on big screen TV) savoring the deaths of Americans, knowing they had to die to save his campaign (WTF?) The same people also state he went to bed because he didn’t give a F. Really…These people clearly don’t think things through before writing ? Can you give me an example of where media asked the whereabouts of POTUS unless there is clear relevance? What’s the relevance here to PROVE the aforementioned invented “relevances.” are false? ReallY? And you wonder why the vast majority see you people as kooky? Advice: When you make accusations connect A to B in a way that is plausible, practical and is more than biased assumptions based on nothing.

  • Freedom Squandered

    Civilian uprisings in Middle Eastern countries have been frequent events – virtually daily. The spinners must explain why this particular day (but not all the others) required talking points, communication coordination and Rice’s five play on the Sunday circuit. Try to explain it without mentioning Benghazi.

    Good luck.

  • Ron Tall

    Logic is not your strong suit, obviously.

    So now that the email doesn’t show what you were told, the “scandal” is now that they should have turned over an email previously…even though it barely references Benghazi.

    Never mind the email is not the “smoking gun” you were told it was.

    Your delusion continues….

  • ColoradoSunshine

    If it was really nothing of concern then why wasn’t this turned over previously? Why did the court have to force the WH to release this document?

  • Atlasshruggedmyass

    That openly bigoted filmmaker was arrested for breaking his parole. Hilary never forced
    That idiot to commit bank fraud. By the way he donated a million dollars to obamas
    Campaign and said he doesn’t blame the president one bit(snark).

  • Jen Price

    So the best you can do is bring up a war that was nearly 50 years ago? Typical. The war was continued by the obstructionist republicans in Congress, Obama was the one who ended the war and brought our troops home!
    I don’t know what ‘dead babies’ you’re talking about because a zygote or fetus aren’t babies. You talk about things like that but why won’t conservatives vote to support higher wages and birth control so families won’t have to worry about having children they can’t afford?
    Why won’t conservatives stand up for the 99% instead of their Billionaire masters?
    Typical FAUX ‘News’ vomit…

  • Ron Tall

    Nope. Your delusion, however, is easily reinforced.

    Read the document, and not stories about the document. The goal in that email is clearly referring to the protests happening around the region, not Benghazi.

    Just because the word protest appears, does not prove your pathetically illogical conspiracy.

  • TBear

    Oh, Mr. Shrugged. It’s “you’re”, not “your”. Hang in there.

    ¤§ TBear §¤

  • Freedom Squandered

    What really happened (September 11, 2012):

    “Time to get up, Mr. President. We have a busy day.”
    President Obama awakens, rubs his eyes, and says “What campaign stops today? What’s today’s date? I don’t even know what day it is.”

    And so the day, just another September 11th, began.

  • zoomer75

    Do you idiots have any idea how these events unfold?
    Do you have a clue as to how murky the waters become?
    Thanks for playing.
    September 11, 2012, 6:41 PM – Senior Advisor Eric Pelofsky, to Susan Rice:

    As reported, the Benghazi compound came under attack and it took a bit of time for the ‘Annex’ colleagues and Libyan brigade to secure it. One of our colleagues was killed – IMO Sean Smith. Amb Chris Stevens, who was visiting Benghazi this week is missing. U.S. and Libyan colleagues are looking for him…

    At 8:51 pm, Pelofsky tells Rice and others that “Post received a call from a person using an [sic] RSO phone that Chris was given saying the caller was with a person matching Chris’s description at a hospital and that he was alive and well. Of course, if the he were alive and well, one could ask why he didn’t make the call himself.”

    Later that evening, Pelofsky emailed Rice that he was “very, very worried. In particular that he [Stevens] is either dead or this was a concerted effort to kidnap him.” Rice replied, “God forbid.”

    September 11, 2012, 4:49 PM – State Department press officer John Fogarty reporting on “Libya update from Beth Jones”:

    Beth Jones [Acting Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs] just spoke with DCM Tripoli Greg Hicks, who advised a Libyan militia (we now know this is the 17th Feb brigade, as requested by Emb office) is responding to the attack on the diplomatic mission in Benghazi.”
    I failed to see any mention about who was waging the attack or if it was a very coordinated effort by a specific group.
    We do remember that Libya was a place that had undergone a recent Civil War, don’t we.
    Or is that a invention of my fertile mind?
    You guys are funny.
    Tools but funny.
    Again, thank for playing.

  • zoomer75

    Obviously the chief concern in the E-Mail was to make sure that there indeed was more going on than the events in Benghazi and that the video in question had been an issue cited in those other events. Or, am I making that up?
    As far as President Fitton is concerned, just because he says he is watching doesn’t mean he has a clue as to what he has seen.
    Just saying.
    Thanks for playing and now toddle your partisan wares to those who buy such nonsense.
    There is a Country to be run here.
    I hope this little exercise pays the bill$$ boy$.
    Thanks for playing.

  • zoomer75

    You were in the dark and obviously you are either a liar or a idiot.
    Either way, thanks for playing.

  • reason1984

    Jay, is that you?

  • reason1984

    Two words…Huma Abedin.

  • reason1984

    75% of all US military deaths in Afghanistan have occurred on Obama’s watch.

  • infidella

    Its about countless lies,deception,defunding and another terrorist attack which led to 4 dead Americans. 2 who saved dozens of lives and only to be left to die..

  • Ralph

    This conversation is not about Bush. You need to get off the past and focus on the present. It seems to me that your the one that is brain washed and a hypocrite. No matter what Obama does liberals like you tend to let it slide everytime even if it means the destruction of this country. Who’s hypocrite. You maybe. Or your man Obama. I think both in my opinion.

  • reason1984

    Amen.

  • reason1984

    Holder’s flack on the Fast and Furious conspiracy, Tracy Schmaler, now works for David Axlerod…go figure.

  • reason1984

    Here Candy, here girl, good girl…how ’bout a bisquit.

  • infidella

    What they had done to insulate O is inexcusable.If the media did their frickin jobs he would not be President today.The sycophants wouldnt of shown up.Just maybe the bad asses who fought the terrorists for 7 hours might of been honored as they should be.

  • reason1984

    Yep, pretty much…but it didn’t dovetail with Obama’s campaign meme of having ‘decimated’ al-Qaeda.

  • infidella

    Dude its 2014 and this is what we are faced with, How anyone could discredit this information is just a cog. Hillary Clinton knew the video had nothing to do with it. Then had the audacity to look the bereaved parents of such heroes that justice would be had as the had the filmmaker in custody. By the way was likely to her credit,UN article 1618,.Americas introduction to the blasphemy law. She is a snake who was an utter catastrophe as Secretary of State.
    Backed the Muslim Brotherhood while selling out the women in the middle east who are subjugated,abused,mutilated,sold for food,have no rights at all
    This administration has been a disaster of mass proportion.

  • reason1984

    Ever notice the similarities between Carney and Pinocchio?

    ‘I was told to lie by Obama.’
    Robert Gibbs

  • infidella

    The lies continue and Jay Carney hopes we are dumb enough to believe his spin.Thank God for Judicial Watch.

  • reason1984

    Attkisson’s series on Fast and Furious didn’t help her stock at CBS either.

  • reason1984

    ‘Liberals didn’t start the unnecessary wars…’

    Vietnam ring a bell?

  • CQ

    I haven’t actually counted, but it looks like nearly half the emails were redacted in full – the to: and the entire body of the emails.

  • CQ

    They didn’t do it to protect Al Qaeda; they did it to protect someone else.

  • Ralph

    You must be a absolutely retarded liberal for even saying that. Thanks your stupidity and your research I think you figured it out inspector smart.

  • reason1984

    The Iraq War Resolution (Hillary Clinton-Aye) and the AUMF to invade Afghanistan were approved with bi-partisan support.

    Donald Sterling was a contributor to both Obama’s campaign, and the NAACP’s coffers, and he was due to receive an NAACP life time achievement award.

    Gabby Giffords, and her husband are gun owners.

    Obama’s approval rating (Pew Research) in the ME is now lower than W’s at its nadir.

    75% of all US military deaths in Afghanistan have occurred on Obama’s watch.

  • InTheDark

    Thanks to this posting, I now know an attack complex enough to kill a top embassy official occurred in Benghazi on September 11, 2012. This was something unknown to me until now, as the media was completely silent about this incident that day, never mentioning a word about violence and death in Benghazi. Thanks, watchdogs, for telling me something I didn’t know from September 11, 2012, onward, that something resembling deadly terrorism happened on September 11, 2012. If only I had known something resembling deadly terrorism happened on September 11, 2012, from September 11, 2012, onward, imagine what could have been—but, alas, I never knew an attack complex enough to kill a top embassy official occurred in Benghazi on September 11, 2012. Thanks for this helpful posting.

  • reason1984

    Speaking of ‘little problems’

    Your Media Matters talking point was debunked days after it was floated.

    Charlene Lamb, testified before congress that funding had nothing to do with the level of staffing in Benghazi.

    QUESTION: It has been suggested that budget cuts were responsible for a lack of security in Benghazi. And I’d like to ask Ms. Lamb, you made this decision personally. Was there any budget consideration and lack of budget which led you not to increase the number of people in the security force there?

    DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE CHARLENE LAMB: No, sir.

    WaPo’s “Fact Checker” gives the Benghazi security funding canard/talking point 3 Pinnochios (Significant factual error and/or obvious contradictions.)

    The State Department’s ARB report blamed a failure of leadership and management for the Benghazi tragedy.

    Try to keep up.

  • Jeffersonian

    the state department and CIA pushed it out. They paid the guy to make the movie, then 14 months later a federal contractor took 15 minutes of it and replaced audio with more offensive language about mohammad. Stanley Inc was the company that breached Obama’s passport. Stanley inc was directed to post that YouTube video 9 hours AFTER the attack! The YouTube metadata proves when it was uploaded and that Stanley Inc posted it! Search the Internet on this, and you will read what others have uncovered! Stanley Inc must be subpoenaed and issued warrants!

  • Jeffersonian

    Did they change Al Qaeda references to the other terrorist group before releasing them? They admitted they knew all along it was Al Qaeda and confirmed it back in January! So why protect Al Qaeda? Is that because of last weeks independent Benghazi report saying they had a kidnapping deal with stevens for blind sheik? I smell another coverup!

  • ColoradoSunshine

    Someone decided to push the video at the White House. Any guess who?

  • mumzieistired

    Thanks Judicial Watch.

    Is there any way to FOIA documents that show where the president was during the attack?

    Was he really that disinterested in the fate of Americans under fire? Or was he stoned? Or what?

    Where WAS the guy?

  • Atlasshruggedmyass

    If you honestly beleive that then why haven’t you baggers demanded this many hearings
    On the THOUSANDS of people dead over GW/Dick Cheney WMD lie?! Or Pat Tillman?!!

    I mean honestly were only talking about four people here one of which is Gay so I know
    You don’t really care about his death, compared to the thousands under Bush. Talk
    About hypocrisy!

  • Atlasshruggedmyass

    What your talking about doesn’t relate to this matter at all. The talking points were written, edited, and created by Obamas personal PR team. NOT spokesman writers or investigative commissioners for the CIA.

  • Gatortrapper

    ROFL… so what you’re saying as an American (if you are in fact an American citizen) is that it’s okay for your government to deceive, misdirect and obscure the truth in order to serve their own personal interests to the detriment of the nation’s interests. You’re a good communist comrade…. follow that party line….

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    Judge Napolitano: WH Benghazi Emails Could Be Violation of Federal Law.

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    You’re lying as bad as the Obama administration.
    That’s the thing about the left – they lie and they bring no facts.
    Here’s the truth:
    “If that email was intended for and sent to
    the [Obama] campaign by Mr. Rhodes, that’s a felony. That’s a violation
    of the Hatch Act, which is a federal statute that prohibits all federal
    employees except two from engaging in politics on the job. And those
    two are the president and vice president, not anyone that works for
    them,” said Judge Napolitano.

    PANTS ON FIRE!

  • Curt Petersen

    The above poster was talking about something else besides the arms being sent to Syrian rebels. You know they are news articles from the so called MSM that eluded to the fact that Lybian weapons were being offered and sent to Syrian rebels. We all knew about this almost 3 years ago.

  • Curt Petersen

    You fall for anything right wing and so easy manipulated by the media.

  • dinkerduo

    Qaddafi weapons were being sent to Syria for the rebels who are/were mainly al Qaeda—that’s why Amb. Stevens was in Benghazi–to oversea the shipments–they were put on ships to Turkey–then down into Syria for the rebels! That’s what they are trying to cover up–they don’t want us to know that they were aiding and abetting the enemy as al Qaeda is our enemy as that’s TREASONOUS!! You can get hung for treason of that magnitude!!!

  • dinkerduo

    And Bush probably WOULD NOT have been giving weapons from Libya–on ships to Turkey–then down into Syria for the rebels who are/were mainly al Qaeda either! I a$$h0le we have now is a Marxist Muslim who said he’d stand with the Muslims if things got ugly—well–they are ugly now–he needs to declare himself now so we can get him IMPEACHED!

  • dinkerduo

    And apparently YOU fall for anything!!

  • dinkerduo

    When you are in a FEMA camp??? Oh–wait–maybe not!

  • Atlasshruggedmyass

    Who said anything about lying to congress?! I’m talking about the talking points of themselves that you conservatives keep pointing them out.

  • inhimtampa

    Most Americans don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. A Supreme Court decision in 2003, Texas vs Lawrence, denied the existence of God’s eternal law and natural law. Justice Antonine Scalia in his dissenting opinion noted that the court had effectively decreed “the end of all morals legislation.” This country , or at least the deceived or ignorant ones, don’t even realize this. The culture has eaten away at our morals.

    The only hope for America is God. Christians need to join together and stop this evil downslide. It’s not too late. But let’s remember that “the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God”. We fight differently. This is a spiritual battle. But we must be vocal and put feet to our prayers.

  • Erudite Mavin

    Here are a few examples.
    White House Press Sec. Jay Carney is married to senior ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman
    NBCs David Gregory married to Beth Wilkinson, former Fannie Mae executive Vice Pres., & Gen. Counsel.
    and the list goes on.

  • momprayn

    I posted late yesterday about this but it’s been deleted. Wonder why. I’ll try again. They are still not going far enough about what the truth is. It’s the proof needed to out this evil Admin. but no one wants to go there. Check this out and share. Report by Citizens Commission on Benghazi:

    “20-year CIA employee and strategic policy expert Clare Lopez, gives a ‘damming verdict’ that should lead to the indictment, arrest and imprisonment of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and a long list of other criminals in Washington. This verdict was reached by the Citizen’s Commission on Benghazi and the bombshell information contained herein shares that while under Obama, the United States “switched sides” in the war on terror and now openly supports the al-Qaeda terrorists.

    The people joining Lopez on this commission included high-profile individuals such as Ret. General Paul Vallely, Ret. General Thomas McInerney, Ret. Admiral James Lyons, Ret. Lieutenant Colonel Allen West and many others from both the defense and intelligence community. The introduction is 50 seconds after which Rick shares his ‘explosive’ introduction. The segment of the show with Lopez begins at 9 minute 20 second for this bombshell report that should soon lead to the imprisonment of the criminals in Washington DC.”
    Go to the “beforeitsnews” site to click on it. More info and article is at the aim(dot)org site

  • Curt Petersen

    So if there was nothing to see then why does an article exist?

  • eastedie33510

    They were so heavily redacted there was nothing to see.

  • eastedie33510

    January 2017 unless we can win the majority of House & Senate on November 4, 2014. It takes the majority of both houses to vote on Articles of Impeachment and then Obama would be tried in the Senate. This would be a criminal impeachment (unlike Clinton) and the sentence would be handed down by the Senate. Max federal prison, I hope.
    Now, if Putin releases the secret about Obama he is holding…that could happen sooner.

  • eastedie33510

    The truth always prevails – eventually.

  • eastedie33510

    I don’t think she will run in light of this breaking news on Benghazi. Other than 4 loyal Americans dying, she lied to the faces of their families and lied under oath to Congress.
    My heart is with the families of those 4 brave men who were abandoned by the country they served.
    Hillary should be in a nax federal pen for life and Obama should also. I’d be happy if they set him adrift on a rubber raft & point him toward Kenya. Lots of hungry sharks out there.

  • eastedie33510

    We’ll take them down mid-terms Nov 2014 and we’ll finish the job Nov. 2016. Your last sentence you referred to Obama’s press team as “there”. The word “there” denotes a place. I think you meant “their”. Perhaps??
    At any rate payback is a bitch. We’ll save this country from the libturds and take back America.
    There will also be some who will go to prison since lying under oath to Congress IS a crime. Do your homework.

  • Adrenaline Junkies

    Go play in LIBYA

  • Tillee

    Atlasbuggeredyourass – It is illegal to lie to Congress.

  • Atlasshruggedmyass

    Sorry conservatives, absolutely nothing illegal here as even judge Napolitano pointed out. Obviously
    Obamas press team can put whatever they want in there own press release.

  • Curt Petersen

    ^^^^^^^^As usual, nothing constructive to say.

  • Robbll

    Are you vying for the “Idiot of the Day” award today?

  • Mark

    Notice that 5 of the 7 recipients of the email are now “then-” In less than 1-1/2 years 75% of those associated with the memo have fled the scene of the crime.

  • Curt Petersen

    You know most of the declassified document were about all the protest and violence all over the middle east due to the video. Obama did not sell arms to our enemies. The story from a right wing organization was that 500 million in arms were allowed to reach militants in opposition to Muammar al-Gaddafi. There is no evidence of those same arms being used in the attack. You guys are so easily propagandized. Also I don’t buy into the BS left vs. right conundrum unlike you.

  • TerryOtt

    You are missing the input from those on the ground saying that there was no demonstration at all. The whole kabuki dance about some demonstration outside the embassy was completely revealed and repudiated from the get-go.

  • Curt Petersen

    So now it’s about the cover-up that did not happen. Okay now I understand. I understand even more that you guys are just a bunch of sheep that will believe anything that confirms your preconceived notions.

  • TerryOtt

    Who runs, and edited the comments from, the CIA?

  • Curt Petersen

    The day after the attack Obama called it an act of Terror. What was covered up?

  • TerryOtt

    Which alleged “cutting” has been described by those involved and those investigating as irrelevant in this case; but you already know that, of course.

  • Curt Petersen

    Did any of you guys actually read the 112 pages of declassified documents?

  • Jimmy Cooper

    We all know had the Bush administration tried to pull off the right under your nose cover up that occurred in the Benghazi situation the MSM along with the entire DNC would of wanted his head on a spit! So if you ever hear a real loud popping noise, that will most likely be your head coming out of your rear end!!

  • TerryOtt

    Then, I suppose the “Mainstream Media” will report on this alleged smoking gun that the administration has been hiding from Congress and the public, about which there’s been such eyebrow raising and furor, and then suggest (as you do) that it is essentially meaningless. They can even get some snark in there about how the right is so misguided as to think otherwise.

    Their other choice is to simply ignore (bury) it. It’s only news, of course, if “they” decide it is. The “this too shall pass” reporting strategy: mum’s the word on orders of the White House.

    I do not think they will take the blatant “It’s Nothing New = Meaningless” strategy. Even they cannot believe the general public is THAT stupid and naive and uninterested; and if the major media were to attempt to pass this off as a mole hill (or as POTUS Obama once said a little “bump in the road”) they’d be shamed by all of us. So, they will just pretend there is too much other news and kind of lose this one somehow. Shhhhh.

  • Apothis

    You really don’t get it do you? It’s about the coverup. It’s about the President using his position to protect his re-election.

  • Breal372002

    ” What difference does it make!? “

  • Breal372002

    Anyone who affiliates themselves with a certain party only to receive the personal benefits from it needs to be exposed! Don’t we realize that this is always the beginning of corruption in government? Any politician must be tested before he takes office. His word alone is NOT trustworthy. This is how criminals like the ones governing this administration came into the ranks. Vetting has been left up to these criminals cohorts. When will we get the picture and demand a criteria set forth by the people to vet these officials and not just voting. It’s become a racquet, an easy chance for these politicians to get rich quick from the suffering Americans hard earned money. Greed will turn a good man bad. They may begin with good intentions, but the thought of all that “free” money is irresistible to most of them. Please people, WAKE UP! Or the Benghazi’s will continue to happen!

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    The left won’t cover because: #1 they lied, #2 they’ve been caught covering and #3 They are STILL covering for Obama and the rest.

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    Ben Rhoads brother is the president of CBS News? I bet there is a lot more of that nepotism going on in the media.
    I just saw Attkisson on TV and she said that is exactly right. She left and wrote a book – coming out this fall.

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    Can’t impeach Obama now! Harry Reid is in charge of the senate and he won’t put it up for a vote.
    Please focus on the 2014 mid-term elections now. We can win the senate and that way, congress will be able to do more.

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    AMEN! I’m with you on that!

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    You’re probably right, but I hope you’re wrong.
    Hopefully it will be a problem for Hillary when she runs for president.
    After all, she took the blame for all at the congressional hearing.

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/01/forward.html shihonage

    I’m trying to abandon the policy of repeating things that have already been said and are in plain view, because clearly in these cases my opponent is being intellectually dishonest.

    RTFA

  • ZEPHANIAH54321

    Now take a look at what some liberals have in mind for public schools MASS RESISTANCE ORG, And AMERICANS FOR TRUTH. To warped to mention. The traditional American family is being forced to take a back seat to the gay and lesbian way of life…. And if you don’t believe it take a look at a video at Americans for truth.

    Are you a father with daughters ? Here’s one for you, A site for you ( Privacy for all Students ) ! !

    Nations and people are tested by their attitude towards children. In Russia you cannot hand out gay propaganda to kids. But some in the American government are trying to shove it down the throats of little kids in public schools.

    You might want to ask the lgbt community what’s in their little black book ?

    Minds focused on truth with honest hearts will bring forth honest evidence.

    Scheming Minds , Deceitful Hearts , leads to tongues littered with Lies.

    And a sober mind is something deceit finds very, Very, VERY frustrating.

    Give a liberal a corner and later a claim is made for the soul.

    Liberal legacy, flawed health care, gay agenda and abortion. Anyone happy about that ? Lets Pray that it goes away. Very soon. Liberals give people a lot to work with ,AY Way to go liberals you have truly given the next generation something to think about. They should thank you.

    Eventually Americans will get tired of being a shameful nation . America needs purging ! ISAIAH 1 : 18

    IF America keeps going the way it is , America is not going to like how it ends.

    We all have a very good reason to be concerned,

    Now lets wait and see how many they take down with them.

    Every one has a choice , to be part of the problem or part of the solution ? What is the new moral compass, the liberal agenda ?

    And something to keep in mind ! When seeking the GOD of compassion JESUS we need to have a heart of humility. And everyone thoughtful and loves life holds him in AWE. Or you’re living a life that’s unpredictable. More about that later.

    How many live in a terrifying battle against ignorance, Book of Wisdom 14: 22 It’s all about awareness, such an acute awareness that you could even hear your own heart beat . So clearly that you could count each and every beat.

    Could you discern a call from Heaven? How do you know when to answer the phone?

    Anyone looking to opt out from obamacare? Take a look at cch freedom org. They have information about health share organizations such as exchange opt out.

    And when you go to the government site be aware that there are NO anonymous shoppers. You must give them ALL your personal information before shopping around. Then if you decide not to buy then all they have is ALL , your personal information.

    The white hat hackers said that there are security flaws and that it would be best to start over. And consumer reports is also warning consumers.
    What could the roots of Obamacare be ? Have you ever heard of Hillarycare ?

    If there’s a global initiative , then America would have to, FALL, Then FALL , in line. What is the bigger picture ?

    Words of John Adams, Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. Check out , Providenceforum org. Never ask people who lack morals to interpret a moral document.

    Live outside those morals and values then the freedoms you are demanding are not yours to be had.

    And there are others who need help, check out, Open Your White Umbrella | The White Umbrella Campaign and , Blitz the trafficker org (Inspire one to reach one)

    And, A song for the atheist , can’t keep a good man down, by newsong. Type it on yahoo and listen. What is fatalism ? A view that undermines personal responsibility

    And before giving a thumbs up or down you may want to wait for the next comment.
    Or Click on user name and read it before I post it.

  • ZEPHANIAH54321

    How could you get the people of a nation to destroy themselves? You could give them everything they think they need or want, especially food.

    Then neglect to warn them about the dangers of indulging appetites, intemperance, excess. MATT 23: 25-27 (Whitewashed tombs -Whited sepuclures – Or Flesh eaters. )The very cause of the churches spiritual blindness, lack of insight and discernment.

    OR did it know what I’m about to tell you? Where in the HOLY BIBLE does it say that food to some is an idol, discreetly? Wisdom of Solomon 13: 11 And you could also let hypocrisy go unchecked.

    How’s the weather? Seems it was known that it would be a hot topic in the age where living in. What would make a super storm a perfect storm? Some called it sandy. MATT 7: 26

    The Old Testament called it a whirlwind. JER 23: 19 If you ever manage to anger a Loving GOD JESUS , would you be able to pacify it? Do you know what a theocracy is ? PSALMS 67:4 BE patient.

    Have you ever heard the saying, a word to the wise? Look it up. That’s because it would be a waste of time to share a warning with a fool. And how could decent people avoid disaster if even they avoid a warning?

    Who are the people you care about in life? How many have you taken time to warn? The Gospels also mentions hypocrisy and weather. MATT 16 , LUKE 12:54

    Could the weight of a storm or the seasons of the mind reveal the depths of the sin?
    THE Old Testament also speaks about blind watchmen who are unable to bark, ( or warn the people.) ISAIAH 56: 10 Why?

    Here’s one definition of hypocrisy, it almost sounds like a woman’s point of view? The word hypocrite was used originally of Greek actors on stage, people who played a role expertly, often wearing masks.

    But it came to be applied to anyone who covered up his true self and pretended to be something he was not. That is what human wisdom does. It is deceptive, evasive and clever at concealing it’s real character, aims and motives.

    The person who uses it answers you in ambiguous, dubious, confusing, and questionable terms so you cannot pin him down and know exactly what he is like, what he is thinking or what he is after. He lives with his guard up and his mask on, seldom letting you know what he is really feeling.

    It is nearly impossible to develop any kind of mutually satisfying relationship with him. End of definition. Make’s you wonder how she copes with it?

    But here’s another it’s called the, bait and switch, look it up. What’s been seen going on in the church or churches is one of the biggest and most deceitful, treacherous and fraudulent scams that’s probably ever been seen before.

    And to get a better idea of what’s been going on in the churches. Do a word study of the word, treacherous. Use a strong’s concordance.

    And the only reason it went on as long as it did is because of the people’s generosity. Would your contribution to society be to feed hypocrisy? It’s like kindling a fire.
    ISAIAH 2 : 1 –

    That’s part of a letter that’s been written.

  • ZEPHANIAH54321

    Understanding the constitution is easy when you use common sense and keep the word decent in mind. Now take a look at what some liberals have in mind for public schools, MASSRESISTANCE ORG, And AMERICANS FOR TRUTH. To warped to mention.

    Are you a father with daughters ? Here’s one for you, A site for you( Privacy for all Students ) !

    Nations and people are tested by their attitude towards children. In Russia you cannot hand out gay propaganda to kids. But some in the American government are trying to shove it down the throats of little kids in public schools.

    You might want to ask the lgbt community what’s in their little black book ?

    Minds focused on truth with honest hearts will bring forth honest evidence.

    Scheming Minds , Deceitful Hearts , leads to tongues littered with Lies.

    And a sober mind is something deceit finds very, Very, VERY frustrating.

    Give a liberal a corner and later a claim is made for the soul.

    The values of some liberals are very dangerous if there’s no compassion for a child then how much are you worth ? Some people like an uncouth liberal T V will search your heart prove your worth test your knowledge and challenge your character . I hope you pass.

    Did you ever think abortion would include snipping a baby’s neck ? How many regret being in agreement with that ? What do people treasure in life ? What do they get serious about ? People looking for freedom from religion ?

    • Be patient you won’t have to wait much longer so be careful of what you do worship. If you don’t sing songs of praise here on earth it doesn’t sound like you planned on doing it in heaven.

    And if you don’t pray it doesn’t sound like you wanted to go any way. And Everyone worships something that’s what man was created for.

    Would you like to open the door to all kinds of sickness and confusion ? Have some chicken with that cow and pig .

    The swine were also symbols of obscurantist tendencies to ignorance, gluttony, lust and selfishness. Rough, rude and raw characters , uncouth .

    Do you have little ones ?

    Ever wonder why they get runny noses? Numbers 11:18-20 Their little bodies have no idea about what to do with all that meat – toxins. And if you really want to plunder your little ones add some fast food to the menu. But maybe that kind of food is fitting, for those who indulge in it. What is conscience, the silent court of justice, of an impartial judge, jury and witness with the verdict.

    Tongues that no bribe can silence. Give thanks for the Grace, that brings peace and joy and wipes out guilt and shame. With the Baptism of THE HOLY SPIRIT. And here’s a little study for the religious, what is the meaning of the word sarcophagi, SARCOPHAGUS , whitewashed, Matt 23: 27

    And something to keep in mind ! When seeking the GOD of compassion JESUS we need to have a heart of humility. And everyone thoughtful and loves life holds him in AWE. Or you’re living a life that’s unpredictable. More about that later.

    Nations should declare war on poverty not babies what a warped since of values. A mothers love up for debate ? Is a mothers love a test in life or a sure thing ? If your not going to be a voice for those who don’t have one then you shouldn’t be in politics.

    Do you think that people know exactly what their doing when they have an abortion OR is it because of ignorance ? And you should give that ALOT of thought before answering .

    And take a look at the Web site, blood, sweat and tears and other toxins in meat.

    And before giving a thumbs up or down you may want to wait for the next comment.

    Or Click on user name and read it before I post it.

  • ** Defiant Soul **

    Even with all the new information they uncover about Benghazi… nobody will ever be held accountable for the lies.

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    It is new because this time, it isn’t thousands of people speculating. There is tons of evidence in it if you actually READ it.

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    What’s your problem? Can’t tell who’s side you are on.

  • Kapil

    This is what America gets for ignoring patriots like Tom Tancredo, R-CO and electing/re-electing frauds like Hussein ‘God D**N America’ Obama.

  • Milquetoast

    I remember that!
    I also remember the smug look
    on his face when he said it.

  • Susan Baumgaertner Fentz

    Those of us who have been speculating for nearly 2 years finally feel vindicated.
    Sadly, the families of the fallen still have not seen those responsible held accountable….yet.

  • Milquetoast

    So true, Buck!

  • auriandra

    Nothing new here. There’s nothing that wasn’t in the emails released last May. Rhodes was in those too so this thing about a sudden link to the White House is silly: we knew that. It’s the IRS scandal that needs to establish a link to the WH, not Benghazi.

    Besides, if you read the emails here, it’s clear they were briefing for a number of questions, so what Jay Carney said at the presser may be right: it’s about ALL the protests. Benghazi is scarcely mentioned, except in a separate exchange about our missing personnel.

    Interesting that one idiosyncratic phrase echoes precisely NYT reporting: reporting in which they (NYT) cited the video as a motivator: http://nyti.ms/1izc1ru, http://nyti.ms/1iByOx0 & http://nyti.ms/1o2t7xi Looks like the “source” for the video connection may have been the New York Times. NYT defended their reporting about the video on 10/14/2012, after re-checking with their sources in Benghazi: http://huff.to/1iGIqvB

    Anyone who thinks there’s a “smoking gun” here is smoking something. Well good; at least I don’t have to edit Wikipedia. Wasted day.

  • Milquetoast

    Madstain, it’s time to impeach your child.

  • pottfullofpith

    In the war on info, info warrior seems to be winning. What a spectacular gusher of nonsense. If he is running for mayor of Kooksville, he’ll win in a landslide.

  • http://lessgovmorefun.com/ LessGovMoreFun

    Thank God for Judicial Watch and their persistence on the truth. if not for them and Fox and a few others, and I mean a few, this catastrophe would be buried by now.

  • Kimcalaho

    And to think we have this POS POTUS for another 2 years because of a deception from the top down. When is this nightmare going to stop.

  • CommonwealthPatriot

    There might have been attacks, but we didn’t cover up wrong doing by blaming a video. Bush also was not selling $500 million in arms to our enemy. You progressive, obama boot lickers, always twist and deflect. Looks like your days are numbered, expect prison time for your ilk.

  • Curt Petersen

    I guess you guys were really upset at all those embassy attack under President Bush too huh? You guys are a bunch of hypocrites and so easily propagandized with the left vs. right BS. No wonder why the vast majority minds are enslaved.

  • madstan

    Move along. Nothing to see here.

  • madstan

    Schit for brains, get used to it. You got more than 2 years.

  • johnnybgood2525

    I hate you people who voted for Obama, hate your guts.

  • slingblade54

    WHAT A SHOCK!

  • Jen Price

    Sure, keep telling yourself that…

  • Jen Price

    Liberals didn’t start the unnecessary wars that have caused the rest of the world to hate the US. There’s something about racism, misogyny, classism, guns, denial, lies and violence that makes conservatives salivate…

  • boys3rsk

    Isn’t it sad that Judicial Watch has to do what Drrel Issa, and congress SHOULD have done. How can Judicial Watch get this information and NOT Issa? THIS IS WHY our country is going down the tubes. Obama SHOUD have already been IMPEACHED over this. John Boehner SHOULD be FIRED, because he WON’T name an independent council over Benghazi. Boehner is covering for Obama and Hillary, because HE signed off on sending arms, and missles to the MUSLIM brotherhood, which is an act of TREASON. Semper FI

  • Mary Brown

    IMPEACH OABAMA NOW! How many more lies must we suffer from this POS in the white house? He neither deserves respect nor has he earned it. All he has earned is contempt over his constant lies, contempt over aiding the enemy(muslim brotherhood, syrian rebels TREASON), contempt over zero job creation and with true unemployment now over 20% we are at depression era levels. He has to go to stop the damage the USA is facing. China and Russia have been emboldened over his weaknesses, China just over took the USA as the world leader in manufacturing, China and Russia both are ready to give the dollar the kill shot by dumping the petrodollar, and by dumping the use of the dollar for trade payments.

  • BuckCarson

    It will take a while for them to fully understand the impact, my friend.

    It’s not much different than the Jim Jones Kool-Aid suicides. Only a couple were aware enough not to get caught.

    In the meantime, learn the word “introspection” – then the word “humility” and finally practice “gratitude”.

    Someone cares enough about you so that you don’t have to live the rest of your life as a hyena.

  • BuckCarson

    The truth will permeate everywhere soon.

    But this is glacial. Slow, but with the force of God … I can already hear the glacier rumbling.

    Thank you Judicial Watch. Excellent and monumental work.

  • Erudite Mavin

    Obama’s Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes, Obama’s cover up boy, his
    brother David Rhodes is President of CBS News.
    No wonder now former CBS correspondent Sharyl Attkisson was given flack from CBS for attempting to get out facts on Benghazi
    and no longer at CBS after many years.

  • Donald R. Maurer

    Congrats Judicial Watch….it is all over Fox today. The left won’t cover because they are embarrassed to hell.

  • Ian

    Huh? <- Me, sounding intelligent. :-)

  • Lew Marden

    you mean liars!!!

  • Lew Marden

    the pres needs to be impeached along with several Advisors need to go to prison for fruad …………..

  • walterbyrd

    Hillary’s feigned outrage was clearly an attempt to deflect attention away from her illegal cover-up.

  • Freedom Squandered

    And don’t forget that in order to perpetuate this extreme deception, Obama and Hillary produced a commercial for Pakistani TV in which our country, the victim of this violent attack, APOLOGIZES to Muslims for the video! All to give cover to Narcibama and the Queen of Lies!

    These are truly despicable people.

  • CHHR

    that they can’t handle being forced to walk back the hubris of the last 19 months… oh and lying is just so fundamental, why seek accountability?

  • kwagner

    It is ridiculous to blame cutbacks for this assault on a CIA gunrunning operation annex. In short, if they couldn’t guarantee safety, they should have closed it. Operating that location had nothing to do with Congress. But nice red herring.

    That the ambassador was brave enough to stick it out, despite his ignored repeat requests for guards, is a badge of honor for him, small comfort though that is. The attack happened because incompetent admin. officials ignored: his requests, foreign intel, including that of Libya, and notification that their local security was refusing the job.

  • BX75250

    “Get the transcript, Candy” – POS obama.

  • ConradCA

    Your comment about the tea party shows that your a progressive fascist willing to do anything for the cause. Just like Tyrant Obama the Liar. You are working for fundamental change, AKA destruction, of our society so you can create your fascist utopia. Not much different than your fellow statists the Nazis and Communists. You think your better than everyone else but when you grasp the evil tyrant of fascism you will do similar evil. The main difference between you statists are the words you mouth to justify the evil you do.

  • kwagner

    You are trying to minimize the impact of the president’s admin. outright lying nationally about policy failure in order to scapegoat a private citizen. You really shouldn’t.

    I am a Tea Partier. The Koch’s pay me nothing; I agree with them politically on a number of issues. Is that somehow comparable to what these emails revealed? Politicians shouldn’t lie, cheat or break the law. If they do, they should be punished. Sheesh, when won’t you tools excuse or try and spread the blame for your team?

    These emails show a plain scapegoating being directed by the President’s people. It’s called what brought down Nixon, my propagandist friend, and the only reason it won’t bring down Obama is his leftist ideologue buddies in the media and universities are going to pull the same crap you have here. Deny, spread the blame and obfuscate for the win!

  • ROSSMAN

    NBA dumps owner in a week over 1 audio tape!! We can’t put them all in jail with the evidence we have! Something is WRONG!

  • BRdirtysouth

    please explain what I missed here. Is it that Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for Strategic Communications tried to coordinate communications among White House staff? Shocker!! It’s called his job!! This is all well documented. There is NOTHING NEW HERE. You people are delusional. Useful idiots!!

  • J. C. Smith

    They’re terrified, as always.

  • anothercrawfish

    Well, AT THIS POINT what difference do liberals responsible for FOUR DEAD (emphasis mine) make to anyone? Dead ambassadors, dead troops, dead babies. There’s something about the death of others liberals just salivate over. But what difference AT THIS POINT (emphasis yours), does it make?

  • Spinmamma

    Or people have been pointing it out and you are too dim to understand it.

  • skillsss

    another unsubstantiated disingenuous smear job from a liberal. Not very surprising. Very small behavior. Info Warrior huh? You should change your handle to GRADE A JERK. Spare us your GEMS OF WISDOM

  • http://crapweasel-news.com/ VenturaCapitalist

    Why don’t you explain why, when your boys provided this memo to the congressional investigators, it was heavily redacted. Obviously they felt the need to hide something.

  • skillsss

    I find Obama and his constituency to be a National Disgrace. It is getting harder and harder to defend the indefensible. Isn’t it?

  • skillsss

    What to do? Get rid of all the crooks, liars and politicians that put their political aspirations before their country. We are not talking about “politicians being political.” We are talking about politicians that lie, cheat and break the law. Marginalize and dismiss all you want. This is a teachable moment for America and it is time to drain this cesspool of corruption. What difference does it make? A very big one!

  • jerryg1018

    If Obama had taken the bull by the horns and used military intervention at Benghazi he would have been proclaimed a hero for taking action. Instead he screwed the pooch.

  • http://crapweasel-news.com/ VenturaCapitalist

    Don’t you agree that Planned Parenthood has proven to be much more effective than lynching for Progressive/Democrat eugenics?

  • http://crapweasel-news.com/ VenturaCapitalist

    Good job on those Soros talking points, junior.
    You earned your 50 cents and two cigarettes.

  • miramichi

    Firing Squad…..

  • miramichi

    Here’s the problem Jen….Obama doesn’t get re-elected and Hildebeast isn’t a viable candidate, not that she ever was one for 2016. That what the sacrificed deaths of four Americans and the lie allowed.
    Don’t we expect the truth at any point?

  • miramichi

    Nothing to see here…move along…four dead Americans that’s all.

  • miramichi

    John Boner will be all over it Jay!

  • miramichi

    “One flew east, one flew west, one flew over the cuckoos nest”.
    The U.S. government is in the process, albeit a transformation
    towards utopian statism….If you don’t get that then good luck.
    I know someone asked me for my birth certificate but I spent
    2 million $$$ to make sure they couldn’t see my document….
    Your rant sounds like you are describing the deceased senator
    from West Virginia, The esteemed Robert Byrd, democrat, that
    was involved with the KKK at a high level and spend decades
    representing your country…

  • BuckCarson

    Far bigger than Israel.

  • Jen Price

    That’s not what she said, she actually said “What difference, AT THIS POINT(emphasis mine), does it make?”
    If you’re going to quote someone at least try to be accurate…

  • Bronson

    When your Progressive Boss ordered you to write your comment… it might have helped if you read the article first. Only a dimwit would attempt to defend the actions now DOCUMENTED!! Are you that dimwit?

  • Bronson

    My..my.. my! White Supremacist Group? You ARE Throwing stones you cannot support aren’t you? Would you mind providing YOUR definition of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN as required our Constitution? Isn’t that requirement a Child Born of AMERICAN CITIZEN PARENTS? In that definition alone…. can your BOSS OBAMA (The Illegal Alien) Qualify and how so?? Your tossing the BIRTHER TERMS certainly define you doesn’t it? Close ties to the REPUBLICAN PARTY…. OH MY!!

  • Bronson

    YOU Indeed ARE a Troll aren’t You?

  • Ian

    The headline should be: “Political operatives caught being coarse and crass!”

    In other words, political operatives were caught doing what they do. If that continues, next thing you know we’ll have wars that make no sense, Vice President’s spinning tales to sympathetic NY Times reporters and Defense Secs asserting there’s stuff we don’t know that’s bleeding obvious! And if it gets any worse, we’ll have politicians being political! Whatever will we do then?

  • http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/01/forward.html shihonage

    Clearly you can’t read.

  • 1IreneFlick3

    The trolls are strong with this one. What does that tell us?

  • Mikado Cat

    Nothing but crickets in the MSM.

  • bitemeDC

    Great job as always JW….thank you.

  • Spinmamma

    That is the biggest load of BS you have dumped yet. You should be ashamed! And here I actually thought you had a brain.

  • Econ4dummies

    Because the original emails CLEARLY state that nothing about an internet video but state it was a complex, coordinated attack, not spontaneous as Obama claimed.

  • Econ4dummies

    Try reading the article. It CLEARLY shows that the administration coordinated FALSE talking points promoting a spontaneous attack driven by an internet video when in fact the state department flat out called it a well planned coordinated attack.

    a newly declassified email showing then-White House Deputy Strategic Communications Adviser Ben Rhodes and other Obama administration public relations officials attempting to orchestrate a campaign to “reinforce” President Obama and to portray the Benghazi consulate terrorist attack as being “rooted in an Internet video, and not a failure of policy.” Other documents show that State Department officials initially described the incident as an “attack” and a possible kidnap attempt.

    a September 12, 2012, email from former DeputySpokesman at U.S. Mission to the United Nations Payton Knopf to Susan Rice, noting that at a press briefing earlier that day, State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland explicitly stated that the attack on the consulate had been well planned.

  • peterjohn936

    Please go for it.

  • Robert Steed

    This is huge. It’s a major story that affects all of us. Almost as big
    as Kerry accusing Israel of apartheid. But, frankly, I’d rather hear
    every goddam bit of nuance regarding some piece of doo-doo head NBA
    whoremonger’s racist rants and the reprecussions therein. Every news
    stories opening (including Fox, by the way) has been NBA dippidy-doo-doo
    head (now going into basketball racist retirement BRR). THEN . . . the
    next segment is “the panel” to add to, weigh in, and clarify how
    important a frigging NBA TEAM OWNER is to our goddam lives! Thank you,
    MSM, for providing all the news that’s fit to print. Now you can sit in
    the corner for at least a week while I ignore you.

  • ranch111

    No mention of this in the MSM. What a surprise.

  • Patricia Pearson

    The United States of America, welcome to oligarchy!

  • Da St

    That’s some argument you make there.

  • Conservative54

    It’s pretty revealing about the political agenda of the Obama White House. Everything done by this administration is based on politics!

  • BRdirtysouth

    This is all smoke and mirrors…there is NOTHING here. I expected a smoking gun. This is pathetic. Just writing about Benghazi and releasing emails is NOTHING unless it proves something. What President in the history of our nation didn’t try to “put lipstick on a pig”. Of course they tried to portray Obama as in charge. We expect nothing less of our CiC regardless of party. Unless you find a smoking gun, keep the sensational headlines to yourself. We can read!! There is nothing here!!!!

  • info warrior

    FYI, Judicial Watch is a white supremacist group. Their founder
    Larry Klayman is now working for Cliven Bundy. They are basically a
    group of birther attorneys who want to stage a military coup to
    overthrow the US government and arrest Obama. They fear that the US
    President is an illegal alien Muslim terrorist from Kenya. They also
    have close ties to the Republican Tea Party. Their goal is to
    create a ‘shadow government’, for white Christians only.

  • kamrom dechu

    Right? Ive been looking and it doesnt have anything new in it, and certainly nothing that would ‘prove’ there was anything other than what was already known. I keep asking people to point out what, exactly, makes them think so. But they don’t.

  • Raz Lemons

    Just one little problem there jdog it was John Boehners Republican Congress who cut the funding for embassy security, Had they been fully funded as they asked for this attack would have never happened.

  • Raz Lemons

    Ok ? Where’s the beef ? This memo is nothing more than a pre interview briefing, They are a dime a dozen and done every single day in DC , Where is the damning part ? it doesn’t exist, Maybe I’m missing something ? Show me .

  • Facthunt

    No problem. I saw the email. Nothing there. Once again no smoking gun.

  • Facthunt

    I’m sure the whole flight was arranged just for the dog and the basket balls.

  • jay l

    Wow… lemme guess. NOTHING HAPPENS

  • Bill Crum

    Yes! This guy should be flown over to Benghazi, dropped into an abandoned building with a sign placed on it that says “Representative of the United States”. Leave him with no back up or help. See how long he lasts.

  • tr99tr

    Damn shame, these United States of America have ended up with true crooks posing as head of state.

  • joethefatman

    They removed the link. Sorry

  • anothercrawfish

    If this woman runs for president you need to make bumper stickers with this image and the slogan “what difference does it make”. You’ll make a fortune!

  • samf1953

    Where did he call it an act of terror, a$$wipe.

    Rose Garden

    10:43 A.M. EDT

    THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

    Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

    The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We’re working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I’ve also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

    Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

    Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

    It’s especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

    Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

    Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

    As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

    No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

    But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

    We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

    Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

    END
    10:48 A.M. EDT

  • samf1953

    All you need to know

  • Susan Becraft

    Why is anyone surprised? The lies continue to flow out of this administration’s collective mouth like water over a dam. I resent the fact that Obama and his inept cronies treat the American people like a bunch of fools.

  • MrBillwulf

    The wrongdoing is that the Obama administration pushed a false narrative, one that attributed the violence in Benghazi to a YouTube video and all but excused that violence. Moreover, instead of defending free speech in no uncertain terms, Obama appeased terrorists by saying “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.” This isn’t about left or right or Fox News; it’s about protecting American citizens and defending the first amendment without apology–in other words, it’s about acting like the President of the United States and not a politically correct community organizer.

  • jdog

    Glad you find the senseless deaths or 4 American citizens so amusing. Dozens of clear warnings were ignored. I suppose you also find it amusing that we left them there stranded while our fearless president got a good nights sleep then ran off to a fund raiser, choosing to ignore, rather than face the problem head on. This administration is marked with cowardice and fecklessness never before witnessed, but you can see the hilarity in all of it. Sleep well til the brownshirts come for you.

  • Michelle_Obamas_Wig

    Yeah gee, how shocking. Who would have thought :/

  • jdog

    I’m just shocked that this administration would only think of itself as it lectured us (lied to us) in front of the coffins of the dead.

  • itypethereforeiam

    Great job uncovering this. Thanks.

  • SenatorKang

    So the fact that the guys in Benghazi kept asking for more secuirty, and less and less was given, that’s something you are cool with? And this is the first killing of a US ambassador since 1979. If it happened under a Republican, you would be up in arms (as we all should be), but under a Democrat you are cool with it? I don’t listen to AM radio, and I have no allegiance to any cable news of any sort. I read from many news sources online, then I ferrit out the truth. And if you need links about the Benghazi security requests that were ignored, just let me know.

  • craig

    Wait until marshal law takes over and your ass is in a fema camp. What would you think then? Our freedom is lost because of sheeple like you.

  • Rob

    So the coverup from Obama and Hillary is now a proven fact. They both have blood on their hands.

  • Michelle_Obamas_Wig

    Gee, I’m shocked. NOT!

  • Avspatti

    Yes.

  • http://itsaboutliberty.com Roy Rogers

    Impeach Obama before he kills us all

  • FlyFree

    Thank you, Judicial Watch. Just made a $50 donation. Wish it could be more. It was the only way I could think of to say thank you for all the work you do and your fearless determination.

  • souphands

    So there was a meeting before Rice went on television to emphasize the points the CIA provided? Sorry, where’s the smoking gun here?

  • Baldy1957

    The end of this regime can’t happen soon enough, but with the bunch of spineless jerks on the other side (Boehner, McCain, McConnell), this Republic is doomed already. Two party system, my eye.

  • missbutterfly

    Yes, Obama should be impeached, but we all know that’ll never happen. Just the fact that he went to a fund raiser in Nevada the day after the attack is enough to impeach him on sheer insensitivity. America has stooped to levels lower than any I’d think possible under this administration.

  • James Perley

    I rarely agree with Ralph Nader, but I do today. I thought Obama should have been impeached a day after the Benghazi attacks. Nader also favors impeaching our president,

  • http://www.theconservativevoices.com/ dmacleo

    had to do a rt click and save as to get it to download here

  • noahblammo

    They thought that it was an internet video. The email reiterates that they thought it was an internet video. How then does this additional email “undermine the Obama administration’s narrative that
    it thought the Benghazi attack had something to do with protests or an
    Internet video?” All it does is show that, yeah, they thought (mistakenly, as it happens) that the attack was because of a video. What am I missing, Tom?

  • Jefferson Paine

    Thank you to all the good folks at Judicial Watch. You are fighting the good and necessary fight.

  • bob lynch

    So, Carney had knowledge of this email. It is now clear that he lied like a dog to the American people about this most tragic event.He is not paid by Obama, but the American taxpayer. He should be immediately fired. Nowhere in his job description is he permitted to lie. Why should anyone believe any thing he says. His lies gave the real terrorists cover to escape. This is treason.

  • garyinaz66

    when the president is nothing but an America hating community organizer who wouldn’t have been able to get into school without affirmative action, and surrounds himself with people that are as bad or worse than he is, its not possible.

  • Guest

    Iran Contra on Steroids.
    Feed weapons to the Syrians via Al Qaeda (enemies) in violation of law, It blows up right before the election, so
    lie, lie, lie to protect the White House. Then delay, delay, delay, and claim its a witch hunt, its all ‘old news’
    It’s Romney shooting first, and aiming later. What ever happened to honesty in our elected officials?

    Time to impeach!

  • garyinaz66

    unfortunately what you say is sad but true

  • garyinaz66

    they just hate america

  • garyinaz66

    LOL.
    too hard.

  • Facthunt

    When I try neither seem to work. 0.0KB

  • Facthunt

    Try what?

  • Fed Up

    “Misleading Talking Points,” huh? There is a word that euphemism – LIES.

  • nickshaw

    Frankly, you’re probably right, WN.

  • nickshaw

    The truth is, all the rah-rah “Bin Laden is dead!” ball spiking at the Dim convention just weeks before the attack and the fact that is was 9 freakin’ 11, is what caused the death of Stevens and the other brave men.
    Muslims, fanatical ones if you wish, were making a point.
    Neither Cairo nor Benghazi had anything to do with a video.
    And the distraction of blaming it was simply to take heat off Skeeter’s failed policies.

  • http://batman-news.com sniffybigtoe

    If these clowns put as much effort into their jobs as they did tyring to ‘make Obama look good’ they might actually make Obama look good.

  • http://www.thecontract.us scotthudson

    Everyone needs to read The Contract On The Government. It is the book that the politicians and bureaucrats DO NOT want you reading. Find out more here:http://www.thecontract.us/

  • http://www.washingtonnearsider.com Washington Nearsider

    This isn’t going to make any difference. They’re still dead, we’re still weak and the current administration doesn’t give a damn about any of it.

    It won’t impact Hillary’s coronation, and it won’t change any minds.

  • http://perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    State Department is too powerful, too political, and too inept…

  • randy

    The truth is that the Obama administration is the most corrupt administration the nationa has ever had. I expect numerous criminal indictments of administration officials for involvement in the various scandals. I would not be shocked to see Obama himself in hand cuffs before things are through.

  • Gary Williams

    Try clicking on the links in the article.

  • joethefatman

    Try this. PDF of 112 pages from JW.

  • corinthian leather

    Watergate didn’t have a body count.

  • bubovirg

    Good job Judicial Watch!

  • gsp9993

    Mass firings coming to the white house. Let’s call it the May Day Massacre 2014

  • Guest

    Rhodes is related to the Rhodes at CBS that wanted to silence Attkinson on the Bengazi stories ?

  • gsp9993

    All the President’s bastards.

  • GarandFan

    Appearance over SUBSTANCE is a high priority for the most corrupt administration ever!

  • michael

    Someone please ask Candy Crowley about it on live TV! PLEASE!!!

  • My Shocked Face

    According to the O administration, it’s better to look good than to BE good…..at anything!

  • Susan Hensley

    WOW!!! Go Get Em”…. Good Job… Judicial Watch!!!